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D46 Superintendent Contract Extension Delayed

Grayslake District 46 school board members ask for more time to review the decision on renewing Superintendent Ellen Correll's contract.

 

District 46 Superintendent Ellen Correll will have to wait until next month to know if her contract will be extended for one year beyond her current contract, which ends June 30, 2012.

As soon as board president Ray Millington made the recommendation at Wednesday's District 46 board meeting to extend Correll's contract to June 30, 2013 at a salary of $170,844, board newcomers Shannon Smigielski and Kip Evans requested the vote be chaired until the board had two meetings to discuss the extension.

"Kip and I have spoken to Ellen about our need to have a discussion with her before we can approve the extension," said Smigielski.

While Evans cited board policy that requires two discussions on an issue before it can voted upon, and that he and Smigielski had not been given that opportunity, board vice president Keith Surroz called it a delay tactic.

"We have been going around the issue of Ellen's contract and you have kept putting it off," said Surroz.

"Before you said you wanted the allegations against her resolved before you could discuss her contract. Now we have gotten the response and you are still pushing the decision off," Surroz said. "Let's move forward, make your vote one way or the other."

One of the concerns Smigielski said needed to be addressed before casting her vote is wanting improved response from Correll to board questions.

"I have a three question rule. I ask a person a question three times in three different ways until I get a response. I have asked you questions that you have not answered," said Smigielski. 

Correll apologized for any delay in responsiveness.

"I overlooked your request. I apologize. It is difficult when so many things are being flung at you," said Correll.

Smigielski went on to identify other commitments she needs from Correll.

"I know you have set performance goals, but I want to see what your goals for the district are. I would also like to see an ethics clause added to your contract," said Smigielski. "I take it very seriously when a letter of reprimand has been added to someone's personnel folder."

Citing a history of setting and achieving goals for the district, Correll responded that she would not have an issue meeting the requests.

"When I first started in the district I set goals and every one has been met. I suggested an extra questionnaire about my performance for the board as part of my review, not as part of the contract, but to provide additional information and feedback. I am absolutely the first to say I can improve. I have no problem having a stronger ethics clause in my contract," Correll said.

It became clear that the contract extension discussion was far from over when Michael Carbone told Correll that what he had to say to her was difficult to say, but necessary.

"Ellen, how may RIF's did the district have your first year? There were 32. How many administrators left this year? Four out of seven schools lost an administrator. What does that say to you?" asked Carbone.

Correll responded, "What is your point, Michael? That I had something to do with these people leaving? Why don't you ask them? How about (wanting to earn) more money? How about being closer to a family member with health issues?"

Carbone responded that he had heard from members of the community and some D46 administration members that the issue was tied back to Correll.  

Carbone also questioned Correll's ability to hire a business manager and the district's involvement in multiple lawsuits.

"Ellen, how many business managers has the district had since you were hired six years ago? By my count there have been five. The most important hire for the superintendent to make and we have had five, including interim manager Vic Berner," said Carbone.

Board member Sue Facklam spoke on behalf of Correll.

"I don't know if people realize that when Ellen started in July 2005 there was no business office, no business manager and no records," said Facklam. 

"The previous business manager took his remaining vacation time and left in June 2005 with no notice. Ellen has had to go from nothing to build a finance office," Facklam said.

As Carbone started to chastise Correll for playing a role in the lawsuits that have been filed against the district, board president Ray Millington interceded on Correll's behalf.

"Superintendent Correll has done an exemplary job in really tough times. I don't know what you're hoping to achieve by publicly castigating someone,"  said Millington.

Board member Karen Weinert also questioned Carbone's motives.

"You're completely out of line. Have you done your superintendent evaluation? I don't know where you're going with this," said Weinert.

When Carbone responded, "To get real awareness, I need to speak publicly. I am doing my evaluation right now," the board unanimously agreed to move into closed session where they remained for nearly an hour and a half.

Tempers flared throughout much of the meeting, including several shouting matches and a charge from Weinert of "grandstanding" by Evans, Smigielski and Carbone. 

Surroz and Millington referred to some of the transparency policy requests from Carbone as "micromanagement" of the D46 administration and staff. 

Board member Evans could not agree to the Consent Agenda, which included the monthly P-card, or purchasing card, statements.

"This is not a P-card, it's a 'party' card. I can understand if school supplies are being purchased, but staff dinners out, especially in other communities while businesses here in Grayslake need the business, just doesn't make sense," said Evans.

The next General board meeting will be held September 7 at Grayslake Middle School (GMS) at 6:30 p.m.

Related Topics: District 46

Lennie Jarratt

1:29 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

There was also a point where Ray Millington, Board President, stuck his finger in Mr. Carbone's chest. It was a disgraceful action. If, as some claim here, the censure us for bad behavior, Ray should be immediately censured.

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Lennie Jarratt

1:50 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

That should be IS instead of us.

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Terri

2:59 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

So, sir, you put "a finger at the chest" in the same category as felonious attempts to hack into a private computer system by colluding with others and lying?

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Brad Faxton

3:04 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

@Lennie -what is your affiliation and alliance with Carbone that you are sticking up so much for him? I'm thinking you personally know him and are in a covert operation to destroy the school by forcing some hamburger head into the superintendent position.

Do me a favor, wait about 12yrs before you do that.

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Nightcrawler

4:14 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

No offense, Lennie, but it's comments like that that make it really hard for anyone to take you seriously.

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LMJ

4:23 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

The difference between Carbone's censure and Ray's, would be the tape and witnesses prove what Ray did. I have yet to see proof of Carbone's.

Really, Nightcrawler? How serious does it have to get? You weren't right there when it looked like Ray was gonna BLOW! He was in his face, turning a bright shade of red, and it had to be an inch from sticking his finger in his chest! I think almost everyone in the room saw it. Go ahead, ask the principals who were there, if you don't believe it.

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Terri

4:48 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

So, LMJ, the Carbone issue isn't worthy of your husband's scrutiny? Only Millington's? Why hasn't Mr. Jarratt pursued Carbone and Norris on the felony? Is it that it doesn't support his cause?

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Sully

4:57 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Terri, I have a feeling Lennie wouldn't want an investigation into the Carbone situation. Someone may find he was in on it, or at the very least, knew about it. The Wisconsin issue was huge for the tea party, and we know about the involvement of both Carbone and Lennie in the tea party. Not spreading lies here- I have no proof, Lennie and Lisa - just an honest opinion of which I'm entitled.

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Lennie Jarratt

6:31 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

False accusations are still false accusation even if you say they are YOUR opinion. I asked for Due Process for ALL the investigations. Colleen (pronounced Koe Lean for those that don't know) was the person in the video: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15409479, who said the censure of a board member did not need due process. I was just repeating what she and others are said to point out the hypocrisy of those here who do not want due process or consistency in how the board handles business. I have not seen a single one of you telling the board to have a complete and thorough investigation into the emails or calling on the board to give Carbone due process. I and a few others have been the ONLY ones at the board meetings doing that. You want credibility, show up and speak up. I have.

Brad Faxton

2:13 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I'm so GD POd at you Shannon. You have turned out to be nothing but an awful thorn in the side of all. If I could take back my vote I would. I'm sad and disgusted at your angry attitude. Grandstanding.... Give me a break.

"Tempers flared throughout much of the meeting, including several shouting matches and a charge from Weinert of "grandstanding" by Evans, Smigielski and Carbone. "

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Terri

3:01 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Given the opportunity, I would, too. Do we have the ability to recall in this community?

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Sully

3:38 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Oh man, Brad- I could've told you that (about Shannon). You didn't ask!

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Lennie Jarratt

7:23 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

LOL, you are angry at the person who didn't get angry at the meeting and say nothing about those that were showing lots of anger like Ray.

Dee Georgou

2:28 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I think that one of the requirements of becoming a superintendent is that EVERY question asked of you must be asked three times in three different ways. The Superintendent brotherhood code of ethics probably punishes any superintendent who would ever consider answering a direct question with a direct answer. In WHSD-1, our Superintendent makes the same amount of money as Correll, yet there are only 2 schools, 605 total students and the community asks questions, that never are directly answered. Correll, Guiser.......all part of a club that has been draining our property taxes, and robbing children of valuable resources through their ridiculously high salary & benefit packages.........yet they cannot answer a direct question with a direct answer. The public school system is broken due to this secret brotherhood of superintendents, who endorse a no Longer needed union. Hurray for Carbone, Evans and Smigielski for asking questions and expecting answers.

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Sully

4:24 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Didn't you know, Nightcrawler? Superintendents from all over the state meet in the back room of some nefarious bar in Springfield, drinking whisky, smoking cigars, playing cards, and rolling in wads of $100 dollar bills, while they discuss their very own 'special' professional code of conduct and ethics. They have the governor and every other political figure in the state in their back pockets just waiting to do their bidding. Where have you been???

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LMJ

4:35 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Sarcasm aside, just curious... are you saying that the superintendents don't have some sort of regular meetings?

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D46 Resident

6:32 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Absolutely agree. This "keeping up with the Jones" garbage with regard to supt salary is disgusting. Correll getting a 14 percent raise in 2010, making virtually the same salary as the CPS supt, who oversees 400 schools, vs her 7. Its a joke, sadly its a joke on the taxpayers.

Sully

3:40 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Yes, school board members can be recalled.

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Jim Marshall

6:11 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Please state statute or source for this information. Not arguing, just asking for clarification.

Rich

3:41 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Homer wishes he coud have his vote for Shannon back also. This three question stuff is nonsense. This delay is nonsense. All the good people of D46 can see what is going on here. The Tea Party will disrupt and destroy the school system with constant attacks on other board members and administrators until their agenda takes over. I am proud of the four board members who have to put up with this garbage. The Tea Party leaders were evidently at the meeting again last night. Be nice if they could do something constructive and good for the community! Homer needs a Thirsty Thursday adult beverage!

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D46 Resident

6:34 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I assume by your fairly coherent (albeit bizarre, third person) posts that you are not always drunk, so is there some reason you have to end every post by informing the world that you are drinking or about to drink?

Sully

3:59 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Specifically, Illinois is one of the states that allows recalls, but I don't know the exact terms regarding local school boards. There is a general process, however. I suspect this wouldn't go anywhere, but it is something to keep in the back of one's mind.

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Sully

4:03 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Oh, and Lisa- I wouldn't have any qualms about a recall for Facklam, so please, no attacking a double standard that doesn't exist.

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LMJ

4:31 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Oops, sorry, Responded before I saw this. Unfortunately, I think you are wrong. Unless it's different for school board members, Illinois does not have recall.

Sully

4:32 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Lisa, how do you feel about a congressman yelling "you lie"!, during the State of the Union Address? Or how about all those tea partiers at town hall meetings last summer shouting over the speaker? How about Fred Phelps and his gang yelling "God hates fags" at funerals? Is that acceptable to you? if so, you're once again showing yourself to be the hypocrite you are. Now that I think about it, how do you feel about the police having to be called to the middle school during a board meeting because of your pals getting out of hand?

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LMJ

4:53 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Not answering you stupid obvious questions, Sully. I could play that game too, Sully. Phelps is a democrat, and unions give instructions on how to yell at meetings. What about that little show in Iowa today? You have no idea how I fell about anything, so don't call me a hypocrite.

Too bad, actually had a dialog with you for a change, and you blew it. Always have to bring politics into it, and attacks, calling me names. You and Homer just don't know how to not make this about politics. I don't even know the politics of some of the board members, nor do I care. This article isn't about me though, is it?

We are talking about Ellen's contract and the meeting last night, not your constant distractions away from the subject at hand.

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Nightcrawler

8:35 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Note about Fred Phelps: He does seem to be, or at least have been, a Democrat, though I'd venture to guess one of the "old school" variety, not unlike the "old school Baptist" he uses to define his religious views. In the 80s and 90s, he ran in several Kansas Democratic primaries, ranging from Topeka mayor to the U.S. Senate, but never managed to eke out a victory. He was also an Al Gore delegate in 1988, due to Gore's then-opposition to a "gay bill of rights" and homosexuality in general; more recently (1997), he called Gore a "famous fag pimp." Other colorful Phelps-isms include his letter to Saddam Hussein lauding pre-war Iraq as "the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets," and his current belief that Barack Obama is the Antichrist.

I know this is off topic, but hey - it's great fun. And I'll go out on a limb here and bet that nobody who posts on this board really wants Fred Phelps on their side. If you feel differently, you're welcome to him.

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Sully

8:45 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Thanks Crawler! To me his political affiliation doesn't mean anything. He's just batsh-t crazy. That's all there is to it.

Sully

4:38 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Illinois does have recall, but it may be specific to the governor and certain legislative officials. i don't think there's been a precedent for school boards, but it would be interesting to find out. However, recall elections can be very expensive.

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LMJ

4:40 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I wish you were right, but you are going to have to show me, because... of course... Blago would have been recalled.

Sully

4:40 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

No Lisa, I'm not saying superintendents don't have meetings.

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Sully

4:48 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

The bill was passed after Blago-

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=76&GA=96&DocTypeId=HJRCA&DocNum=31&GAID=10&LegID=48161&SpecSess=&Session=

It was approved Nov 2, 2010

As far as local officials, Buffalo Grove did something, but I'm not exactly sure what.

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Lennie Jarratt

7:18 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

@Sully, that law is is for Gov. only.

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C-Dub

8:20 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Sully you are correct. Buffalo Grove recalled Lisa Stone Village Board Trustee last year.

Terri

4:53 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I did some research.
Lisa Stone was successfully recalled as a village trustee last year in Buffalo Grove I think. The process is allowed in Illinois, and at the local level nationwide, it's generally used with school boards and local governments.

The process is much more simple at the local level. And cheaper, too. You just get the required petitions and put it on the ballot in the next regular election.

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Sully

5:04 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Lisa- you were talking about the behavior of an individual at the meeting last night and how it deserves censure. I was asking if you disagree with all other similar behaviors, or disagree just when it suits your purpose. With the exception of the tea partiers behavior at town hall meetings, which cannot be denied, I didn't mention the political parties of those I asked you about. So I guess you did approve of the conduct that required the police to show up at the middle school then. Okay.

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Sully

6:59 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Lennie, we don't need to go to the board meetings for that. It's already being done (investigation). As far as Carbone is concerned, it's kind of moot at this point. Nothing has come of his censure, so what do you want? A speech in honor of Lord Michael by the other board members and a kiss on his butt? Maybe HE should be superintendent (it would be interesting to see the exodus of district employees if that were to happen). Maybe that's the only way you'd ever be satisfied. Hey, why don't you and Lisa apply for the job? You seem to know everything there is to know about education and running a school system. Come on Lennie- go for it. Just be prepared for taxes to go way up as the population of D46 goes way down.

Lennie, Lisa, you've interjected yourselves into D46 quite enough the past six or whatever years. Whatever your beef is, get over it.

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Lennie Jarratt

7:19 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

So, it appears you don't want due process for everyone, is that correct? If so, why not?

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Sully

7:35 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Sure Lennie. Let's give due process to a dead issue. I have no problem with that. Really. If you are hell-bent on it, go for it. You can pay the legal fees, right?

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Brad Faxton

7:37 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

No, because you want to crucify everyone who doesn't subscribe to your 'whatever' and make them believe you are right. You bully them into submission and then keep on ranting about nonsensical absurdity.

To which I ask, what relationship do you have with Carbone? Why u stick up for the guy?

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Brad Faxton

7:38 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

And to that end-what is the LCTP FIEN 501cd?

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Lennie Jarratt

8:04 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

@Sully, so, what is your time limit for due process?

@Brad, lol, you and others here continually are the bullies. Anyone who disagrees you allies want run out of town, even if it is a reporter. You continually post personal attack after personal attack and you then try to claim innocence. This is just plain too funny.

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LMJ

8:05 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

LOL, I can't believe you said that! Brad, I believe that is the districts administration's job when you ask the "wrong" questions, as MANY in this district have told us. Ironic that they teach the kids not to be bullies, and do it themselves. Do as we say, but not as we do, I guess.

Isn't that what you are really trying to do with Shannon on this too? You are hoping that she will read this and you can tell her how you wish you would take your vote back, but in reality, who are you, and did you really vote for her? Doubtful. You seems to be a fowl mouth spammer. BUT, that is just my OPINION, right... Brad?

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GoD46

1:10 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Lisa, learn how to spell foul properly. It's not fowl, it's foul.

Lennie Jarratt

7:30 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16566994 - The part in question about Ray is just past the 11 minute mark.

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Softball Jim

7:03 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Seriously? Because he pointed at him during an animated discussion? No assualt took place at all. Talk about blowing something out of proportion.

Sully

7:47 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Brad, just in case you really don't know, Carbone is on the Lake County tea party board.

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Sully

7:49 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

And why on earth would you be drunk on a thursday night? That's bad for ya, son!

Sully

8:27 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Boo hoo. We're all just mean ole bullies. Poor, poor Lennie and Lisa. They're just innocent victims. Hold on while I find my violin. Sorry, but your lines are worn out. You need some new ones- the old ones can't sell the goods.

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Lennie Jarratt

9:33 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Just giving the facts to everyone so they can review them for themselves so the district can be cleaned up and return to it's purpose of education instead of campaigning and a jobs program for family and friends.

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Lennie Jarratt

9:48 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Business Managers - the most important hire of the Superintendent
a. Ellen's first Business Mngr hire - Daily Herald discovered staff being over paid/underpaid. 2 Years in a row.
b. Brad Goldstein who stayed only 1 year
c. Ed Towle – Hired without a background check. A citizen brought up discrepancies and he was told to lie and resign by Ellen. He was then fired after not resigning. And is now suing the district. My understanding is he reached out to the district first and the district chose the expensive legal route
d. David Tylavsky – here less than a year and was fired/resigned under mysterious circumstances.
e. Now we have Mr. Covault, who appears to be a good choice. I guess we’ll find out for sure a year from now though given past experience

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Lennie Jarratt

9:56 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

6/30/10 Audit
Had a 3.4 Million correction to the ed fund, i.e. auditors found you had 3.4 million LESS in the ed fund

Findings
#1 Could not prepare your own financial statements

#2 Financial records were materially misstated prior to the start of the audit

#3 Does not have sufficient internal control documentation for all its major processes

#5 Lack of review process over journal entries and bank reconciliations (same for 2 years, supposed to be corrected in the year following the finding)

#6 The person preparing the checks also prints the signatures on the check
Overbudget last year by 1.4 million (pg 27)

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Sully

10:24 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Yes Lennie, all of this definitely interferes with the teachers ability to teach. Do you think this is on their minds when they go into their classrooms each and every morning? Do you really believe that the superintendent and the goings on of administration affects the quality of teaching in the classrooms? No Lennie, you have no idea what happens in the actual schools. You couldn't care less what goes on in actual classrooms because all you can think about is some stupid meaningless vendetta. Don't even pretend to care about education Mr. Jarratt. You are despicable and the more you bring forward these ridiculous arguments regarding our children not getting a quality education solely because of Mrs. Correll and the election of 2011, you look more and more foolish. Get a real job Lennie and do something good for a change.

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LMJ

11:09 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Who looks foolish? /\

Your constant attacks on us personally, constantly diverting from the real issues, and saying that Lennie has some kind of vendetta on Ellen or doesn't care about education makes you all together WRONG. Don't bother saying this was all opinion. You have stated these things as facts.

Quoting Collen Wade in the June 15th board meeting, "no matter what anyone does, they will find out the truth." That is precisely what we are hoping for, Sully.

LMJ

10:44 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

I just uploaded the picture of Ray in Michael Carbone's face before the second closed session.

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GoD46

1:12 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Was it a 'fowl' picture, Lisa?

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Phil

7:15 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

I watched the video last night and again The Patch publishes an article filled with misquotes and misinformation.
Karen W said the use of a word was grand-standing, not that 3 people were grand-standing. Shannon S. didn't say she has a rule of asking a question 3 ways; she said it seemed as if there is a rule because she has to ask questions 3-different ways/times before getting a straight answer- totally different meaning than what is written in this article.
Todd C. who is new to the district and gave 1 interview - he had to go on record correcting quotes and statements taken out of context.
Every time mis-quotes and mis-information is printed, it exasserbates controversy and pollutes public opinion.
Start getting it right Patch! You are turning into a gossip rag instead of credible news source.

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Brad Faxton

7:34 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

SHAME ON YOU JANE!!!!! (yes, for the first time in almost 5 years, I just used my caps-lock key)

Phil

7:51 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Brad, you are the winner of the least credible and most childish poster on the Patch. This will be my only post to you because engaging in any conversation with a *fist-bumping, *butt-slapping, dolt is pointless.
You go ahead and continue with posting hundreds of laughable remarks; the rest of us will attempt to engage in intelligent conversation based on accurate info. - in other words, some where else.

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Brad Faxton

9:10 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Oh, and if you are honestly all fired up over an absurd website, and silly childish comments, get over it. This is the Internet. This isn't a widely read news organization, this is a subsubsubsub cult like website that hardly anyone frequents except for a few hundred folks.

With that said, I was about to give you some exploding knuckles or a chest bump, but now I won't. Nor will I share a Butterburger and Turtle Sunday at Culver's with you.

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Emerson

10:35 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Phil, you seem to be the only one with any intelligence here. Why waste it on such ignorant,rude people. I would share a Turtle Sunday at Culvers with you!

Sully

7:52 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Oh Lisa, you're so clever with the 'who looks foolish ^". Are you an adult or what? So you and Lennie haven"t spent the last six years attacking D46 over who knows what? Neither of you has a clue as to what really goes on in the actual places of learning (that would be the schools, Lisa). Just what makes you think you know anything anyway? You really know nothing. You make assumptions based on preconceived ideology and misleading, no, make that false, information. You are a pretender, just like your husband. And yes, those are the facts. I'll say it again-neither you nor Lennie give a rat's a** about the children or the school system.

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Lennie Jarratt

8:18 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

LOL!!!! More false accusations instead of dealing with the facts of failed leadership and use of taxpayer resources for personal gain. D46 is NOT a jobs program for friends and family.

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LMJ

8:35 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Then that would make it twice (way more than that actually) I would say to you that you're WRONG!

Just keep attacking, and looking foolish... Sully and Brad. "We" can't talk about the facts, because that would make us look at something with substance, rather than your foolish comments.

Notice how many times, Karen, Ray, and Keith interrupted people during the meeting? Those interruptions remind me of what goes on here, a lot! Look away from the facts, everyone. With all of that "opinion" crap, and asking what people's intents are.

Oh, and truth be told, I do struggle with phonics (thanks for pointing that out, Brad). I went to a public school that tried a new idea in education. You know the kind... the ones that say that it is okay to spell cat, "kat", so that you base your knowledge on that foundation. I have had a lot to overcome, but if it makes you feel better to attack me that way, go right ahead. I don't mind. It is a good example of why we should be encouraging a good start from the beginning, and not rewarding wrong answers.

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Brad Faxton

9:14 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Uhhhh, no Lisa.

And, when was the last time you boiled chickens?

Nightcrawler

8:19 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Anybody hear from Rob Smith and his demand-for-Ellen's-resignation petition? I miss that guy.

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Sully

9:41 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

No Lennie and Lisa, the facts are the students of D46 are getting a good education. You want people to believe these school board issues affect student learning, but they don't. You fool no one with your false concern over the children. Lisa, I'm so sorry your early education was unsatisfactory. Perhaps that has something to do with you rather than your school.

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Lennie Jarratt

10:37 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

If you believe the superintendent doesn't have affect the learning in the classroom, why have one?

Are you saying to ignore unethical/criminal behavior as long as it doesn't effect the classroom? That is a laughable argument.

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Sully

10:46 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

Your argument that the quality of education provided by teachers is affected by things so unrelated to their actual teaching is specious at best. The superintendent is the manager of the system as a whole. The teachers are the players who deal with the students and make the difference. You wouldn't know anything about that, Lennie, because you're not in the schools. You pontificate without any real knowledge. Another fact.

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Lennie Jarratt

11:01 am on Friday, August 12, 2011

It's always interesting to see how you spin and try to change the debate. I provide facts about Ellen's track record, you immediately make a false accusation about me and start talking about teachers. So funny, and so transparent that you want to ignore the real facts and issues.

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Sully

12:02 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Lennie, you've been accusing D46 of inadequacy, have you not? You say D46 needs charter schools because the education offered is not good enough, right? You talk about the children, do you not? That is what I'm talking about. You've been on the attack since before Correll got here so don't tell me you won't continue to attack after the smoke has cleared. The real issue is the kids, Len. Not you and your unwillingness to pay taxes.

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LMJ

12:07 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Bringing the teachers into the argument is what they do, so they can get their support. They spew that we are against them and lie, quite frankly.

As far as not being in the school, I have tried twice to volunteer in the schools and have been told no. Now, if I would try to do that now, you would say that we are trying to invade the schools. So, what you are saying, Sully, is irrelevant. You can't have it both ways.

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Softball Jim

7:43 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Lennie, Are you saying that it is Ellen's sole responsibility to hire the buisness manager? That the board did not vote on that issue to approve a contract and to do interviews? The only one to blame is Ellen? Now somehow, I find that hard to be factual.

Sully

12:24 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Well Lisa, first of all, what support could I be seeking from teachers? i have no affiliation that would require their support. And as it was with your own educational experience, perhaps the schools have turned you down because of you. The argument is what is best for the students and you and your husband have no idea what that would be. Yet another fact for you, Lisa.

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LMJ

12:35 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Nice... so what are you saying, Sully?

Man, you are in full personal attack mode today! What has got you so mad?

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Brad Faxton

12:43 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

aka "Go away - we don't want you"

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LMJ

5:51 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Again, real nice, Brad. Do you even know how mean this sounds? I wonder if we really knew who you all were, if you would say these things to us? Or if you would say this to a neighbor who thought that this administration should be held to the same standards as everyone else in the nation? Would you ask them to leave?

WE did not write these emails, a few of the people that thought that they were above rules, ethics, and in one case, the law were the ones who did. They are not being held accountable for their OWN actions. Pure and simple, this has been what this about, even though you want this to be about the whole school system, it is about that.

You don't even seem to care to look at the facts and talk about the situation anymore. It is an all out war and diversion with you guys today. How sad...

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Sully

6:07 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Lisa, we aren't fooled by you, so get over yourself. I'm still waiting to hear why you and Lennie began your attacks long before this particular board and this particular superintendent even came into their current roles. Maybe you'd like to tell me why. And if I'm not mistaken, Brad was quoting his interpretation of what YOU were saying.

Sully

12:47 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Well, I thought I was pretty clear, but I'll try again. The bottom line is the students of D46 and the quality of education they receive. Your husband's relentless attacks on Ellen Correll, the school board, and public education on the whole indicates nothing exhibiting that kids are the real issue. The issue with you and Lennie are your weak egos which result in constant attention-seeking at the expense of others. Claiming to have knowledge you clearly don't have, and passing that off as legitimate. In truth, you waste the time of the board and the tax-payers and keep the spotlight on anything but education.

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Lennie Jarratt

2:55 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

It is very clear, you want to attack the messenger with personal and false accusations instead of dealing with problems that exist within the school board and administration. Until this mess is cleaned up I will stand with the residents of d46 against you and the other bullies who are passively and actively allowing the unethical and criminal behavior to continue.

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Sully

3:29 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

No Lennie, it is clear that for whatever reason, you don't get it. So I will stand with the residents of D46 against you and your ill-informed shucksters who have no understanding or interest of the students.

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Phil

3:46 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

For those who want to know if you can recall a school board member: only the ROE can make that decision. There would need to be an investigation and decision that a school board member was derelict of their duties as written by the IASB and school code. Removal of a school board member by the ROE has never happened in the state of Illinois. Those are the facts.

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Phil

3:48 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

My apologies, I meant ISBE; not IASB.

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Sully

4:24 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Thanks Phil. So there's been no precedent set, but if challenged, it could happen.

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Phil

5:28 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Can it happen? Legally, yes. Will it happen? Short of a school board member committing murder or becoming a registered sex offender, extremely unlikely.

Sully

5:39 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Oh, I agree with you. Extremely unlikely.

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Sully

6:27 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Hey Jim, did you get the info you asked about? i think it's covered throughout this thread. I don't have anymore documentation besides the illinois statute for governor recall, and I posted that. Based on Phil's post, it looks like the ISBE website has something regarding education recalls.

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Sully

7:30 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011

Is this anything new, Lennie? Or are you just tooting your horn again while showing us something your buddy Bob wrote?

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huskyfan

2:13 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011

The real tragedy here is the fact that the school board and superintendant cannot facilitate a meeting. They continue to waste precious time and energy on grandstanding and one upping each other rather than taking care of the business at hand. Do what you were elected to do and knock off the show.

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LMJ

3:18 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011

Actually, if you look at the videos, there were a lot of interruptions while people were commenting. Maybe if some Karen and Ray didn't react like their heads were going to blow off in any minute, it wouldn't have taken so long. Did you see Karen through out this meeting? Because honestly, that is what took so long, is the heated exchanges back and forth!

Any board member should be able to make comments about whatever they want without thought of how long it would take. As is stated at every meeting, I think, this is a board meeting with the public there, not for the public.

Something I thought was ridiculous, was that the principals were required to stay there. They have to work long enough days without being there even later. They could always watch the videos later too. I really don't understand that rule.

BTW, what was said about Ellen in the second closed session that the public could not hear?

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Sully

3:43 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011

Husky, just as our government has become paralyzed because of partisanship, so has this school board. I would expect little if any compromise on major issues.

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GoD46

5:53 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011

Lisa, personnel issues are discussed in closed session. Discussing her contract is a personnel issue. Not public business hence the reason they discussed her in closed session.

LMJ

10:07 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011

No... copied from the agenda, "g. Discussion Regarding Superintendent Contract Extension – Ray Millington".

Was anything really discussed that shouldn't have been in public, or did we just want to take the discussion out of the public's eye?

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GoD46

1:03 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

You are right, Lisa, they did make the discussion prior to approval during open session. What an incredibly dysfunctional Board of Ed! Personnel issues are not to be discussed in open session, especially a personnel issue as volatile as this! What are they thinking? And the questions asked of Ellen by Shannon and by Carbone are so unprofessional. Common sense dictates that comments and questions like those should have happened in closed session. No wonder nothing gets accomplished here, they don't know the first rules of a school board meeting. What a mess. :(

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Brad Faxton

7:11 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Carbone and Smirskie = very unprofessional.

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LMJ

9:42 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Wow... what a well thought out response.

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Phil

9:56 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Legally, personnel issues can be discussed in public as long as the person being discussed is not named (ex. for purposes of discussion, employee will be refered to as "x"). Ideally, the discussion should have been listed on the agenda under closed session and then held that way. That is a lack of fundamental agenda building and a process problem. The entire board is ignorant overall of the rules, not just two members. It starts with the creation of the agenda. The secretary of the supt. knows more about running a meeting than those with the most tenure on the board; not one of the 3 members who are in at least their second term, made a motion to amend the agenda either.
The constant pointing out of only a few members is very revealing about the writers on here. There is an abundance of ignorance on the school board; it comes from the group as a whole. You want to fix the board of education GoD46, Faxton, Sully, etc.? Stop blaming individuals and start asking the group to take responsibility for their part. President, learn the rules of the meeting and basics of drafting an agenda. V.P., the same. ALL members, learn to discuss respectfully. Public, stop blaming and start encouraging. Start doing this and less Monday morning quarterbacking and maybe this board will succeed. Or you can keep posting here and your interest in watching the board fail will be more obvious with each post.
The best part is that our staff and students will succeed, in spite of all of you.

LMJ

1:26 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

The discussion of Ellen's contract extension was already on the agenda, and MUST be discussed. It was discussed once back in April or May. It happens every time they want to discuss a contract. In July, they just did Lynn Barkley's. What was removed was the actual approval of her contract, because they hadn't discussed it twice, as board policy dictates.

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Sully

10:14 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Phil, in my opinion, the dysfunction of the board will continue despite any actions taken by the public. It is a highly polarized unit right now with neither side willing to capitulate to the other (which is actually a good thing, but does little for getting anything constructive accomplished). Unless they decide to compromise for the good of the students, I'm not too encouraged. And yes, i do post a lot on here for the readers to see, but that does not mean I do nothing in other arenas. You are right- the staff and students will move on despite the goings-on at the top. It has always really been about the students, and they will succeed (or not) regardless of the board of education.

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Phil

11:06 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

I say again, hold the entire board accountable for the dysfunction, Sully. Ask each one if they have compromised in discussions. Ask each one if they know procedure. Stop pointing at individuals and start pointing at the group. There is plenty wrong and only a little right about each at this point.
It's apparent that most on the board don't see themself as the problem. That is the biggest problem.
Add non-productive, negative conversations here, inaccurate reporting, and lots of gossip and Grayslake has itself a collective mess.

Lennie Jarratt

10:37 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

PBIS is in place to reward good behavior. Yet the board continues to reward bad behavior by attempting to extend contracts during the middle of ethics investigations. They also continue to prevent a thorough investigation because of the personal agendas. The board will continue to be dysfunctional until all of this is resolved completely. As Colleen Wade said one time, the State's Atty knows the law. They are the proper place for an impartial investigation to get this over with once and for all. Why won't the board ask for their help? Let's get this mess over with so we everyone can move on? What say you Ray? Karen? Sue? Keith? You are the 4 preventing this from happening still?

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Sully

10:48 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Oh, Lennie, just to change the subject briefly- D50 still has those minutes posted stating you introduced yourself as a D46 tech specialist. That's misrepresentation if in fact that's what occurred. You said you've requested they change the minutes as that was their mistake. The next board meeting is Aug. 23. Maybe you'd like to show some of that diligence of yours to get that changed by going to this meeting. We wouldn't want to think you've been less than truthful.

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Lennie Jarratt

4:46 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Response from D50 (July 19th) after I had contacted them twice:

Yes, the Board received your email in their weekly communication

At this time I unable to answer your question regarding when they will address the minutes.

We will have a response to you just as soon as possible.

If you have any questions in the interim, please phone.

Phyllis Martin
Executive Asst. to the Superintendent
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It appears their board is not doing their job properly either. Seems to be a trend around here.

Sully

11:19 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

I understand what you're saying, Phil. I really do. Short of recalling this whole group and having new elections, I'm just not optimistic that anything will change. It does not please me to say this, but one has to be realistic. Now that the new school year is about to begin, I'd like to see more focus on the schools and less on the board. I suppose it's priorities. I think more can be done at the school level to make a difference than at the board level. The distractions at the top do not have to interfere with the quality of education for the students. I resent those who criticize the whole district because of the board and I resent those trying to destroy public education using the board and superintendent as an excuse.

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Phil

11:28 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Sully: "I resent those who criticize the whole district because of the board and I resent those trying to destroy public education using the board and superintendent as an excuse."
You have been in and around Grayslake right? Then you know that there are very few who criticize the whole district, the staff, the education the kids are receiving and even less (if any) who are actually trying to destroy public education. Your exaggeration of the problem is part of the problem.

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Sully

11:34 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Maybe, Phil. Maybe not. I don't believe it's an exaggeration when the board is in the newspaper every other week. I don't believe it's an exaggeration when the founder of the Lake County tea party continually posts in every right wing blog he's on, and has a special section for D46 on his tea party website just for criticizing the district. Perhaps you'd like to ask Lennie to tone down his attack as well.

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Phil

11:59 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Why wouldn't the board be in the newspaper (only the Patch, not the paper) every other week? Look at the number of posts each article draws; even the most mundane and meaningless of "news" is reported because it will bring out discussion.
If reading right wing blogs or even knowing that there is a special section for D46 on a tea party website bothers you, don't seek them out to read. I had no idea, nor do I care. I don't and wouldn't seek them out or read them. I don't see either having an affect on the community as a whole, only you as a person.
Sometimes information is not knowledge and that is the point you are missing when I tell you that you are exaggerating the problem.

As far as asking Lennie to tone down his attack, I believe I have addressed that:
"You want to fix the board of education GoD46, Faxton, Sully, etc.? Stop blaming individuals and start asking the group to take responsibility for their part............ Public, stop blaming and start encouraging. Start doing this and less Monday morning quarterbacking and maybe this board will succeed......

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Lennie Jarratt

4:48 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Asking for a complete and thorough investigation is a reasonable request. If the board is interested in doing their job and getting out of the papers, they would make that happen instead of preventing it. The continued negative press is a direct cause of the board's action/inaction.

Sully

12:12 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Bob Susnjera keeps the Daily Herald busy too. The point is, let's focus on the students, not the board.

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LMJ

4:38 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Question: How many weeks has it been since the Attorney General has told district 46 to release the emails? It seems to me, that the board (4 of them) and Ellen, have been keeping this going. Forget the Herald or the Patch. For that matter, anyone who has posted on here. It lies on them. The whole district would love this to be all over with, but it won't be, as long as these few board members and Ellen continue this selfish game.

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Lennie Jarratt

4:52 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

The problem is the board will be the focus of the news until they allow a complete and thorough investigation. It is in their hands and they continue to delay the process, dragging this out. It could have been totally completed by now if not for the board/administrations actions. It appears they want it to last for many more months. Why are they doing that? Why are you not demanding that they do the right thing and allow a thorough investigation?

HM

5:46 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Phil has an excellent point-There is such partisanship on these message boards, that neither side is looking at the whole picture. It's like I tell my children when I'm tring to make a point that they do not want to hear - you need to listen and consider what I'm saying instead of thinking up your own defense. When all either side of this argument can do is spew out their own "talking points", it becomes quite evident that no one is listening! There are problems here, with the Board / Administration, and with those who continue to go on witch hunts. Regarding the BOE and the administration - they need to be accountable for thier actions, and they need to get the district's financial house in order. As for Lennie and whomever else is spending otherwise productive hours combing through e-mails, get a life and do something good for a child - help them read, or learn math, or buy an underpriviledge kid a backpack with school supplies - you'd be amazed at how that changes your perception of what is necessary and what is meaningless. No offense to any of you, but I'm so tired of the far left minded Sully dictating how we should think like him/her, lest we be some fringe right wing conspirator in cahoots with the Koch brothers. Mr. Faxton, remember Andrea saying "look at the post above me - it's a clown"? Well, your "boil any chickens" line puts you in a category with her. Lennie - I'm speechless at your anger and finger pointing. It's disgusting. Get over it for all of our sakes

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Lennie Jarratt

6:31 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

@HM, so are you suggesting that all the unethical behavior and possible criminal activity should just be swept under the rug and ignored?

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LMJ

6:31 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

HM, You can have your opinion, that's fine... but please answer some questions for me. How long is too long for Ellen to produce FOIA's email that the Attorney General told the district to provide? A few weeks, a month? The FOIA's were given to the district in May. That was 4 months ago.

I would also like to ask you if you think people that have pending charges should be voting on Ellen's extension, specifically Sue Facklam, who Ellen helped in their campaign on school hours and school email?

Should Ellen be given an extension at all, having been found guilty of helping in Sue and Mary's campaign?

IF, HM, we just let this go on and wait to see what happened, nothing would happen, and it needs to. We only go on with this, because if we left it right where it is now, nothing would happen. When I teach my children right from wrong, it is a good lesson on when you do something wrong, there can be consequences for your actions.

It is only a witch hunt, if there isn't any real evidence to back it up. There is plenty of that. Please don't judge whether we do anything else out of this arena. You don't know us, and it is unfair for you to assume it. Your worthwhile, may not look like our worthwhile... but that doesn't mean we're wrong.

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Nightcrawler

6:41 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

"Found guilty?" By who? And in what courtroom? I must've missed that article.

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HM

9:05 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

I don't think any of the emails have shown that Ellen engaged in activities that warrant any more than the reprimand she received. She engaged in questionable discussions, and that was dealt with. If more e-mails need to be turned over to the state's attorney, let the office of the state's attorney deal with that. Lennie, it is not your job. You have brought some unethical behavior to light, and yes, it needs to be dealt with. Agreed. Now let those in charge of dealing with it do their jobs. And Lisa, as for the witch hunt, If I dig deeply enough into most people's emails and such, I will surely find some juicy detail that could be used against them. You have expended much to expose some very small-time infractions. Illegal, perhaps, but not worthy of lengths you taking this. Sue and Mary are the ones who really look guilty here, but as for Karen - she removed campaign literature. Not exactly a class A felony. And now, as a result, the entire district is tied up dealing with this petty nonesense. Personally, I am not a big fan of the superintendent - think she has done poorly managing this district, both fiscally, and from a curriculum standpoint. But I see nothing that warrants the actions you have taken against her. You clearly have a great deal of energy - wish you would use it for something constructive.

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Lennie Jarratt

9:26 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

The problem is @HM, the board is not dealing with it. They are ignoring it and trying to sweep it under the run instead of giving it to the State's Atty. That is the entire point of why I have continued to question them. This needs to be dealt with properly. Until the board does what is right and allows it to be fully investigated, it will not end. It's really that simple. The BOARD is preventing this from ending.

Sully

6:01 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

HM, with all due respect, you nor anyone else has to think like me. If one can present a logical argument based on facts and with at least a little objectivity, it doesn't matter to me what you believe. If one cannot deal with the real facts of an issue and simply believes what one reads on right wing blogs, then no, I have no patience for you. I will never understand how adults can believe such nonsense.

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Sully

6:11 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Well Lennie, why don't you go to the meeting in person instead of writing a letter? You have no problem going to D46's meetings. D50 shouldn't be any different. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Go on record stating their mistake.

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HM

6:23 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Sully, I said no offense and meant it - I find that if anyone identifies with republicans, you immediatly point out how wrong and misled they are, and lump them all into one big pot with the koch brothers. You say it quite often. You are passionate about what you believe, and I respect that. I see the world quite differently, and would like to feel that you respect that as well, but from what you say, I am small minded and ignorant. I do not align myself with most of what the tea party says, and am generally a centrist who leans right on fiscal matters, but I am indeed for smaller government and lower taxes. I have never regularly read a right wing blog, and I don't regularly read left wing blogs either - neither provide truth. Rather they are full of extreme opinions of which I have little use. I don't mean to bring politics in - but you go there quite often, and have appeared to be as closed-minded toward "the right" as you claim "the right" to be. Again, I appreciate your passion. I appreciate that you want what is best for the kids in this district. I have no idea what you do for the schools, but if you are truthful in how you claim to help, I commend you for it - too many people offer opinions, but do nothing, and that is something I have no patience for. We part ways on our political leanings, but I would never say you are ignorant or ill-informed. You just see the world differently than I, and I have no problem accepting that. There is no room for intolerance

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Sully

6:34 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

You're right, HM- I am very passionate about politics. I don't mean to belittle republicans as whole. My anger is more directed at the tea party, and the republicans who have abdicated responsibility to cater to these people. If one looks at a most polls, a majority of Americans disapprove of the tea party and what it stands for, yet the pols. on both sides of the aisle treat them with kid gloves. I don't know if that's because of the money involved or what, but it is not a good thing for this country. If you are not familiar with ALEC, i again post this link for you to see what is happening behind the scenes-

http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

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Lennie Jarratt

8:58 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

I see you continue to post what others are doing trying to impugn we are all the same. Would you like me to start posting the same for Progressives or do you want to stcik the facts here in D46?

Sully

6:48 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Lisa, Ellen was not found guilty of helping anyone in the election. Sorry to disappoint you.

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Lennie Jarratt

8:54 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

@Sully and @Nightcrawler, Ellen was found guilty of violating the district ethics policy (even without a thorough investigation) in July. The violation was soliciting another Superintendent on behalf of the Garcia/Facklam campaign to have him put up election signs.

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Lennie Jarratt

8:55 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Because the case was not reviewed thoroughly, it was appealed and the board is ignoring the appeal.

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Sully

9:32 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Um Lennie- you are just plain sad. My response was a reply to HM and really had nothing to do with you. But I guess in your head, everything is about you, isn't it?

Now, regarding guilt, why did the Herald report this?-

"An internal investigation has found Grayslake Elementary District 46 Superintendent Ellen Correll didn’t commit ethics violations, as alleged in a complaint that accused her of sending political emails supporting two board candidates." further, from Patch- ""The mediator has found that Superintendent Correll did not violate the school code in any of the e-mails cited. She did, however, respond to an e-mail request to have (campaign) signs placed in Douglas Parks yard, and she should not have responded to that request," said Ray Millington, board president."

So she responded to an email which you think influenced the election. Sorry Lennie. You lose. I agree with I think HM (sorry if I'm mistaken) in that Mrs. Correll has made a lot of questionable calls, but your wanting to string her up is a bit over the top.

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Lennie Jarratt

9:41 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Like Phil said, there is lots of inaccurate reporting going on in the papers.

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Sully

9:47 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Of course. Maybe you should talk to Bob about that.

Sully

9:45 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

So Lennie, what is this smoking gun you're sure will be found if the board will just stop covering it up? Selling students on the black market into the slave trade? Correll spiriting school funds into her secret Swiss bank account? Hacking into the computer voting system and changing votes? Just what is it, Lennie? Maybe she was trying to illegally get into subfinder to find personal information on her employees. Is that it, Lennie?

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HM

10:15 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Lennie - it's all a matter of perspective. Yes, you are right, some BOE members made really bad judgements. What I don't understand it why you are taking it this far? What are you getting out of this? I ask that with all seriousness. Sadly, we should all be reacting as passionately about Jacob Schrimpf getting a perfect score on the ACT - did you even NOTICE that? He is an amazing young man, bright, talented, personable, and a product of this district you so despise. Instead of focusing on kids like him, and how to find more potential in all of our students, you are wallowing in your miserable mess, and trying to drag down an entire district to prove what? That mistakes were made? We GET IT!! Now, let it go already. Lennie - I am as appalled as anyone at what Sue and Mary allegedly did - and based on the evidence you found, I am pretty certain they did it. But the 3-ring circus you are creating is not helping my kids, or anyone who attends D46, get a better education. It's a huge distraction. I tend to agree that Ellen's contract should not be voted on until this is all cleared up, but I can't bring myself to take it to the extent you want this to go. It's not helping one child. And realize, as I said earlier, I am not a supporter of the current D46 administration. I have vocally spoken out against things I have issues with. I just think it's time to let the school operate as a school.

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Sully

10:23 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Thank you HM for showing the patience I don't myself, have.

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Lennie Jarratt

10:23 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

So again, I have to ask you @HM, are you suggesting that all the unethical behavior and possible criminal activity should just be swept under the rug and ignored? What is so wrong to ask to have this thoroughly investigated and dealt with?

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Sully

10:33 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

What unethical and criminal activity are you referring to, Lennie? If you have information, then share it. What are you so certain is being covered up?

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HM

10:41 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011

Lennie, this is the final time I will engage you in this. I've been following these posts for weeks. I see every tactic you throw out there, and won't be sucked into arguing with a brick wall. I pride myself on being a good listener, and being open minded. I have not seen either of those traits in you and will not waste my time beyond this last response. I never said to sweep anything under the rug. I said the State's attorney needs to take it from here. If the State's atty office is not salivating over this, then maybe it is time for you to accept the fact that they have bigger issues to deal with, and this might not be the huge corrpution case you dreamt it would be. I also said I agree with you that what happened is wrong, and I take issue with a number of things Ellen has done. One last time - it's all about PERSPECTIVE. The State's atty office has limited resources, and needs to focus on those cases that have a higher priority. While what happened here is wrong, there are serious crimes and corruption that also need attention. You may have found two BOE members discussing handing out gift cards, but do you have any evidence of who received the gift cards? Did the recipients vote for Sue and Mary? Did the recipients redeem the gift cards? Lenny, if someone gave my 18 year old a gift card to buy a vote, I'd be furious and want answers. But do you have PROOF anyone received & used the cards, and that they voted as a result of that? If not, your case is not solid.

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Rich

11:11 am on Monday, August 15, 2011

Homer enjoyed HM's response. This will never stop. How long has the tea party leadership husband and wife combo been attending D46 board meetings? How long have they worked against D46 referendums? This is not about ethics and putting issues under the rug. This is about a school system, period. An investigation, following established policy has been concluded. The results shared and a reprimand issued. It is over. The rest of the good people of D46 will move on. The tea party makes their own issues. A FOIA request is incomplete, thus new issue. Stop! D46 has three tea party members. Nothing positive has come of their service. And by the way, Carbone said he stands by his actions and did it for all the taxpayers of D46. Sounds like an admission against self interest to me. Homer needs a vacation!

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Phil

1:07 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Homer, for someone who (while ridiculously talking in third person) has at times, added some insight and intelligence to conversations, your post is just another example of gossip.
Phil lacks patience for unsubstantiated claims and negative, unproductive gossip. Phil needs proof. Phil prefers facts so conversation is based on actual and factual not innuendo and inaccuracey.
Homer, while in your line of work, spin and misdirection may be the norm, my line of work requires absolutes. In the spirit of wanting to consider you credible, please provide proof, sources, sights, receipts, videos, pictures, showing that D46 has three tea party members.
If you are unable, then your gossip only servces to be part of exaggerating the problem.

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Phil

1:25 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

And before Brad Faxton jumps in to call me a tea-bagger or lennie lover or asking me about chickens, let me pre-empt your inevitable insinuation that I belong in any of those categories.
I stated in my first post: "Every time mis-quotes and mis-information is printed, it exasserbates controversy and pollutes public opinion".
This is what leads me to reply to Homer and seek clarification.

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Brad Faxton

2:48 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Nothing like a bucket of fried chicken - minus the chicken - just skin.......

GoBlue

1:47 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

This is definitely an emotional debate. The emotions are exacerbated by the political leanings of the board meetings and online commentary. At the end of the day, this is the internet. Whether productive or not people have the right to voice their opinion no matter how irrelevant or inflammatory. To me the more important issue is the board itself. Everything has been contentious and basically all decisions have been put on hold as the back and forth debate rages. There are absolutely political undertones to the board debates. The problem as I see it is that you have Carbone as well as the other 2 new members Shannon and Kip. They are all about having their voices heard. That is fine, but to what benefit of the children.

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GoBlue

1:47 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

The problem I have here is what is the end game? Is the end game to get rid of Ellen and Sue? Then what? Attack every person that does not share their views. I personally am not a supporter of anyone on the board per say. I just want them to be able to work together for the greater good of CCSD 46 and the quality of education. I fear that as things currently stand this board is simply not going to be able to put aside their differences and having angry, vocal attendees at the board meeting only acts to inflame the situation. I have sit back and watched this situation unfold, since prior to the elections and honestly things have only gotten worse. Generally the board meetings end up resulting in personal attacks. There is no way in that type of situation you will have a productive meeting. Not sure where we go from here?

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Nightcrawler

1:54 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Hey Blue - I suggest you run for the Board. Seriously.

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GoBlue

2:26 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

No thank you. Not sure I could handle being ridiculed every time I opened up my mouth. Being on the CCSD 46 board is the definition of a thankless job.

Sully

1:49 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Hi Phil. Carbone is on the board of the Lake County tea party, and Evans has stated his affiliation every now and again. Shannon reports she is not member, but she does appear to lean in that direction, and did run on a sort of 'ticket' with Evans. I believe she was endorsed or promoted in some way by the tea party.

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Sully

2:02 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

How about you, Crawler? You interested in a board position?

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Nightcrawler

3:37 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Can't do it. My wife works for the District. And we've seen where that kind of thing gets you.

Seriously, we need a few sane people to run - hard to find for, as Blue correctly points out, it's not an attractive position. More important is to get a few thousand people to vote for them. The Tea Party's best friend is the 11% turnout.

Rich

3:08 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Homer does not engage in gossip! The tea party and their apologists, seems like they have another shill, can ramble on. It is they, the tea party and their attendance at meetings that disrupt the flow of the meeting and engage in expensive investigations and FOI requests. It is wrong for commentators on this post to ask for truth and evidence when they themselves are clueless. Homer has not engaged in mis-quotes or mis-information nor will he. Homer is now going to engage in an adult beverage and let the good people of D46 take on these tea party wingnuts!

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Brad Faxton

8:11 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

I'd meet ya at a nice saloon downtown anytime and buy you an ice cold adult beverage anytime you like.

Sully

4:47 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

But Crawler, is your wife a member of the union? You'd have to get a few bonus points if not! And you're right about low voter turnout. That is the tea party's best friend. Sure worked for 'em in 2010, didn't it? As Paul Weywich, founder of the Heritage Foundation and noted conservative said, "Our election wins increase as the number of voters decrease ..."

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Softball Jim

5:56 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Lennie, I think I saw someone on here ask you what the Lake County Tea Party's Federal Tax Id Number was. As a political group/not-for-profit group that is taking donations, where is Federal Tax ID number? Where can I get a copy of the Lake County Tea Party's financial statements?

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Brad Faxton

8:09 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

That was me, the dork who boils chickens.

I reiterate, what is the FIN? By law, all 501c4 organizations are required to file forms which are, by law, to be made public.

Sully

7:19 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Here's an interesting video regarding the Koch Brothers and what they are doing to public education. You know the Kochs, Lennie- the founders of Americans for Prosperity and the tea party to which you are affiliated. I know it's not Illinois or Lake County, but then again, neither is the Cartel-located state of New Jersey.

http://kochbrothersexposed.com/education/

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Sully

8:30 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Uh oh, Brad. May need a FOIA here! It's really very interesting just how little information is out there regarding the LCTP and it's mothership, tea party patriots. The patriots were originally formed through FreedomWorks. Here's some brief information of that organization-

"FreedomWorks is a non-profit organization heavily involved with the Tea Party movement.[1] It does not disclose its corporate donors, and its leaders are drawn heavily from the leadership of the Republican party and right-wing operatives. In 2006, the Washington Post revealed that from 2001 - 2006 FreedomWorks engaged in a hidden deal with insurance brokers whereby the brokers would sell high-deductible insurance policies and tax-free medical savings plans to individuals at a group discount, and those who purchased the plans would automatically be added FreedomWorks membership list. Customers unaware of the membership arrangement, for which they were charged extra fees. Membership was a condition of getting the discounted insurance plan. The arrangement was credited with helping increase the number of "members" FreedomWorks could claim belonged to the organization." - (from Sourcewatch.com)

continue-

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Sully

8:36 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

Also from SourceWatch-

"TPP (tea party patriots) consists of a website (http://teapartypatriots.org), the ownership of which is masked by ProtectPrivacy, located in the Netherlands.[2] There is no "about", "staff", "directors" or other information identifying any individual as responsible for any part of the website, listed as a 501(c)(4) organization on the homepage."

Lennie also appears to affiliate himself with the Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity. As I said, there really doesn't seem to be a lot of information to be found.

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Brad Faxton

8:43 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011

WOW! How frightening...............

Sully

7:34 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Breaking news! Hot off the wire (well, not really, but thanks Stephen Colbert for pointing this out!)! So, for those who don't know, it costs thirty dollars to buy a ticket to to be able to vote in the iowa straw poll. It appears that Michele Bachmann purchased a boatload of those tickets and gave them to people so they could vote for her. Hmmm. Buying votes? A tea party candidate? Oh my!

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Terri

8:36 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Here's one to FOIA. Years ago, Lenny went on a rampage because the high school didn't take the lowest bid for artificial turf. Instead, they got quality product from a reputable firm still working today. Seems D46 decided it wasn't worth the fight so they bought the lowest bid on air conditioning. The system NEVER worked, almost blew up, leaks coolant gas in the building and guess what? The company is out of business. Happy Lenny?

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Sully

8:45 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Good ole Lennie. As long as it doesn't affect him, what does he care?

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Terri

10:57 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011

But it will affect him. If he ever starts paying taxes again. Hiring another company to fix the mess will cost the district double.

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Sully

10:01 am on Wednesday, August 17, 2011

From your link-

"The odd thing, though, was that FieldTurf’s bid was so embarrassingly high, school officials made a counter-offer. And FieldTurf agreed to cut its price..."

Isn't that generally how business is done? An initial price is given, then a counter is offered?

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Terri

1:46 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Not with Lenny. You take the lowest bid...period.

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Lennie Jarratt

7:10 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Let's see, if I recall,
AC = Mike Linder = ex-board member hired to save money = campaign supporter of Garcia/Facklam.

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Terri

7:05 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

Single-handedly - no vote taken- right?
Did the Tea Party board members approve the low bid? Did they consider others on merit, or was it all about price?
Why aren't you asking these questions? Is it because your movement supports low bids for the sake of low bids and you don't want to take any responsibility for the gross misjudgment?

Sully

7:41 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Oh, I get it. Blatant nepotism. But Lennie, if the district had hired someone more expensive, you'd have had a fit. So it looks like it was just another no-win position you put them in. Gosh, imagine that.

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Sully

7:43 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011

By the way, Lennie, I have a question for you because I really don't know. Do you really not pay taxes? If not, why don't you?

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Sully

7:17 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

Terri, you're asking for logic where none exists. It's simply concrete "I don't want to have to pay for anything and to hell with the consequences" thinking. They preach about the future, but their short-sightedness doesn't allow them to see beyond next week.

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Lennie Jarratt

7:40 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

You guys are so entertaining. You'd make good fiction writers with the stories you come up with here.

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Sully

8:20 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

How come you haven't answered my question about taxes? It's a legitimate question. Because if you're not paying, we're paying for you.

Sully

10:10 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

Not too surprising. Hand in hand.

Lennie- do you pay your taxes? From what I've read and heard, you don't. Here's your chance to set the record straight.

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Brad Faxton

11:07 am on Thursday, August 18, 2011

FASCINATING who helped him - again, all public information which can be searched and found.

C-Dub

12:33 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011

Question at hand now is: Does Lennie have the personal vendetta or is acting as a puppet??

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Brad Faxton

1:01 pm on Thursday, August 18, 2011

A personal puppet or an acting vendetta?

Tim Froehlig

5:38 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

As a D46 taxpayer and as a voter, I have the right to expect a certain standard from those I vote into office.

State's Attorney Dan Jasica is now IGNORING his oath to uphold the laws through State's Attorney Mike Waller's office.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20111029/news/710299901/

And if the board doesn't demand Sue Facklam's resignation they are just as guilty. This charade has gone on long enough. The board needs to drop their poitical affiliations NOW and ALL demand Facklam resigns.

This was a FELONY and the fact the state's attorney's office now ADMITS IT and refuses to uphold their oath of office to enforce and prosecute this crime is sickening.

Go ahead, try going out and committing a felony sometime and see if they let it slide and let you off the hook. They spend FOUR months investigting this, openly admit they have found Facklam to have commited a felony, and they do nothing but send her a letter?

With all due respect, I and others here waited for the investigation patiently just as all Facklam's supporters asked. The woman committed a felony. The State's Attorney has said so even if they refuse to uphold their oath of office now, which is inexplicable.

I would hope others would join me in asking for Sue Facklam's resignation immediately. This has no place in our school district. And states attorneys who ignore felonies but admit that one was committed should resign as well.

It's that simple.

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Tea Party Patriot

6:12 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Hope tomorrow's board meeting is packed with people demanding her resignation!

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Softball Jim

6:53 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Tim, You are correct Flacklam should resign, plain and simple. The investigation shows she did break the law, and for that she should be gone. As far as the S.A. goes, well, sometimes they make decisions on how winnable it is in court. Right or Wrong, they do it all the time. They are most likely weighing the cost of a trial vs any punishment , plus if they can feel like they can win it in a court of law. That is how the justice system works all the time.

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Sully

7:35 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Yep. She needs to step down. It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow night.

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Jose Cuervo

3:45 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

If Facklam was going to resign don't you think she would have done it before going to a meeting where she will be publically chastised? She won't resign. I'll bet a supply of limes and salt that she won't even show up to the meeting.

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Sully

5:20 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

I won't take that bet! I don't know what she'll do. I don't know her nor do I understand her. I've never found her to be too impressive. Maybe she'll surprise us (but as I said, I wouldn't make that bet).

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