District 46 Board Looks at Cutting Staff, Making Other Reductions to Cut Deficit
Superintendent Ellen Correll presented a list of $1.79 million in cuts to the board Wednesday night.
14. 5.
That's the number of staff members that could be cut should the Grayslake District 46 Board decide to do so.
Superintendent Ellen Correll presented the board with a long list of potential cuts Wednesday night as the district aims to plug its budget deficit. The board previously discussed a list of other budget cuts in November 2012.
"We are not getting rid of fluff in the district or recommending that," Correll told the board. "These recommendations are painful for all of us."
"$2.2 million is a very daunting figure to any of us," she said of the deficit.
Correll said the district's leadership team met four times to discuss how to address the deficit. The discussions were difficult, she said.
"You very quickly see the passion that all of these administrators have for not just only their buildings but district-wide," said Correll.
Ultimately, the leadership team came up with a list that totals about $1.79 million in cuts. Here are some of the items on that list:
- Staff reductions. Correll said the team looked at tightening class sizes based on the previously-approved parameters, including 25 students per class in kindergarten through second grade, and 30 per class for grades three through eight. With that, Correll said, the team projects cutting 14.5 staff members across the district. She said the team will have to look at teacher evaluation ratings and seniority. "Seniority is not building-specific," she noted, meaning the cuts would take place across the district.
- Correll said the team looked at tightening the special education caseloads in several different areas. Some reductions could be made in this area, she said.
- Assistants. Correll said the team suggested reducing the number of assistants by six.
- Physical Education. Correll said that while the team understands the importance of physical education in schools, the team recommended that the board consider allowing the K-4 buildings to reduce the amount of physical education time from 40 minutes to 30 minutes, which would allow some staffing reductions.
- Spanish. Correll said two years ago, Spanish classes were reduced as a money-saving measure and the district ended up going to a lottery system to determine which students could take the class. Though taking Spanish class before high school "does sort of give them an edge … they still need to take the two full years of Spanish at the high school" because the middle school Spanish class doesn't provide credit in high school.
"Every one of these that we talked about, they were very difficult for us to talk about because we can see the advantages, but we also know that the district is facing a significant deficit," said Correll.
Correll said many other areas were looked at, including: a 10 percent reduction in building supplies at the schools, a $50,000 budget reduction in the technology department, increased registration fees, a $19,000 reduction in the board budget and the elimination of the pre-K coordinator role. Regarding the latter, Correll said the team recommended offering a stipend to two current employees to handle the pre-K coordinator role on a part-time basis.
"There are other areas, obviously, that we can look at," Correll said, adding that this was the team's original look at potential cuts.
Board Vice President Keith Surroz asked his fellow board members to keep in mind the ultimate goal—having a balanced budget—while studying the list.
"We don't have a choice," he said.
Correll added that an issue that came up in the leadership team meetings was whether the board could transfer money from the operations and maintenance fund to the education fund.
Board President Ray Millington said that would just be a band-aid solution because it would be "a one-time deal."
"I think it's certainly something that we should consider," said Board Secretary Sue Facklam. She asked for more documentation on the statute regarding fund balance transfers.
Tony
6:12 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Welcome to the real world...
Sully
6:26 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Yes, where education is no longer important and the kids of today have no marketable skills for tomorrow. That's just want you want in a global economy that is based on competition among countries.
Tony
6:58 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Oh don’t worry Sully.
The kids are going to be just fine.
Jim Marshall
7:20 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Sully, are you going to write the check for the deficit facing the district?
Pete Gardner
7:33 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Good morning. I never feel good when people lose their jobs but I agree with Mr. Surroz, this has to be done. This is what has been done for years in the private sector when revenue is down. We all need to remember that the state of Illinois is in large part to blame. I know there are some who think the board should have increased taxes but that would have added only $350k/year; that's less than 1% of the districts budget right? The state didn't pay $1.5 million (give or take I can't remember the exact numbers). I hope everyone is writing and calling their local and state representatives and asking them to get the state to pay the funds they are supposed to.
Good luck.
Pete
Tony
11:47 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Certainly you're not suggesting state funds grow on trees..
Fifteen Year Grayslake Resident
8:06 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
OK. Here we are with a totally predictable situation. The Board decided to give taxpayers a break and not take the full levy increase available to it under state law. Now the Board has to decide how to make ends meet. The initial proposal in front of it is to reduce 14.5 full time equivalent certified teachers, and an undetermined number of non certified staff, as well as other expenditures.
My question is, what about next year? Will the Board go through the same exercise again? Not take the levy increase allowed by law? Cut another 14 or so certified teachers, more non certified staff, etc.?
The fact that there is not a majority slate of candidates in the upcoming election committed to the strategy of holding the line on D46 taxes speaks volumes. It is one thing to be a vocal minority on the Board with a band of loyal, vocal supporters. It is a whole other matter to have a majority and be fully accountable for the choices made. A lot harder to blame administration, teachers or staff when you're in charge....
Tony
11:50 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Next years choices will be the same; raise taxes, or make cuts. Perhaps they will follow the same path as this year and incorporate a little of both.
Lennie Jarratt
12:24 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Just in case you didn't realize, the max levy would NOT have covered the budget deficit.
BTW, raising taxes every year is not fiscal sustainability and that is what this district needs.
You can blame the higher class sizes and more RIFs to the union reps who knowingly argued for unsustainable increases during the strike.
Charles Johnson
1:49 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Voting for the levy freeze resulted in reducing the upcoming operating levy revenues by approximately $750,000. And more importantly, diminished revenues by a similiar amount in perpetuity, thereby creating a long term structural deficit. The net result was to widen the deficit and place more reliance on State revenues. So they doubled down on State GSA revenue at a time when they should have known that, given the state's fiscal problems, the state will continue to prorate their GSA payments and D46 will never see GSA revenues anywhere close to PMA's forecast. So the BOE chose to run a strategy that purposely reduced revenue and then caved on a labor contract that resulted in increased expenses. And now they sit at the table with a glum look on their faces wondering what to do about a $2.2 million deficit. Shouldn't they have looked at what cuts they would have to make and their impact BEFORE voting on freezing the levy and caving on a labor contract?
Dr. Charlotte Nielsen
2:39 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Thank you Mr. Johnson. It would have been prudent for the BOE to ahead before any action. But I don't think they "caved" on the labor contract. I don't see any Master's Degree, highly educated teachers making loads of money as they would in the private sector with these degrees. Their sacrifice was supposed to be protected by the guarantee of a pension. Which we all know what happened to the money the teachers gave the legislators for their pension. Looks like the teachers lose on both counts.
Tony
6:51 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Please keep in mind, every reference to levy revenues, state revenues, GSA revenues and GSA payments could also be referred to as levy revenues generated by tax payer dollars, state revenues generated by tax payer dollars, GSA revenues generated with tax payer dollars, and GSA payments made with tax payer dollars..
Johnson H.
11:30 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Jim, Pete & Fifteen, Do you have kids in the district still? If you do I would hope you would be concerned for the quality of your own childs education. Next year if they have to make more cuts, and lose another 14 teachers and staff members, are you going to be concerned with 1 teacher in a class room full of 35-40 kids. When will the community step in to support the schools? When are you going to demand from the villages that decided to approve all the homes in these bedroom communities to step up and help? When did your education that was supported by the community you grew up in become more important than the education the children of this community needs? When are we going to demand that the villages approve more non-residential growth to help out the schools? When are we going to demand that villages like RL Beach give up some of their sales taxes from the TIF districts that they approved to help support the schools? When are we going to demand that the Federal and State governments fund and support education in this country?
Tony
11:47 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Certainly you're not suggesting federal and state funds grow on trees...
Fifteen Year Grayslake Resident
12:02 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Johnson, couldn't agree with you more. My children have graduated from D46 but that doesn't lessen my responsibility to the community to support D46. My point was that those whose goal is to stop tax increases without regard to the impact couldn't or wouldn't field a slate of candidates that would allow them to win a majority. It is easier to criticize and prolong controversy than to govern.
Dr. Charlotte Nielsen
11:51 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Just curious. Did Superintendent Correll take a hit on her pay like everyone else in the district?
HM
12:22 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I will preface this by saying I am not a huge fan of Ms. Correll. However, I don't think she has had a raise in three years. Teachers have not gone without an increase yet. Out of curiosity, who took a hit on their pay in the district in the last few years?
Lennie Jarratt
12:25 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
I believe her pay was frozen as well.
Tony
12:40 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
"On a related note, a vote to extend Correll's $170,844 annual contract through June 2014 failed for a second time. The vote ended in a 3-3 tie (as it did on Oct. 17). Board member Sue Facklam was again absent." (Perhaps Facklam was out picking up some gift cards.)
Dr. Charlotte Nielsen
12:55 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Yeah, $170K for Correll vs. $50K for teachers (with a masters degree). I would hope her pay was frozen.
Sandra Sims
3:40 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Correll received a 14 percent pay raise in 2010.
Ed Brown
9:05 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
@ Tony, Feb 6 minutes record motion passed to 5-2 to extend Superintendent one year through June 20, 2014.
Lennie Jarratt
12:34 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Education Spending has increased by over 51% since 2000: (Federal, State, Local)
2000: $542.8 Billion
2011: $810.1 Billion
2012: $822.8 BIllion
2013: $820.6 BIllion
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_education_spending_20.html
Doug Daluga
8:38 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
How about just local? Why choose 2000?
Is it because in 2000 spending on education (~6.5% of GDP) was the lowest it had been since the early 60's?
Why not compare to 1978 when it was ~1.2% of GDP?
Now, education spending is ~8.5% of GDP. Hardly out of line with history.
Sully
5:26 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
That would require some research, Doug. Lennie doesn't seem to believe in that. I guess it's one of those "sciences" that isn't really real.
Terri
7:00 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Mr Jarratt...
Your post fell below the fold on the Blogroll. Better get hoppin'! Maybe something original with empirical research or significant practical experience? Nah...Google's easier...LOL!!!
Lennie Jarratt
7:19 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
I chose 2000 because it was before NCLB and its adverse unintended consequences was passed.
Terri
8:47 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
And NCLB was whose baby? LOL!!!
Lennie Jarratt
5:47 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
NCLB was bipartisan legislation most notably by ted Kennedy and Pres. Bush. It is disaster which gave the feds more control at the expense of the local district, teachers and parents. Pres Obama reauthorixrd it while grabbing even more federal control st the expense of the local community.
Terri
6:34 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
The legislation was proposed by President George W. Bush on January 23, 2001. It was coauthored by Representatives John Boehner (R-OH), George Miller (D-CA), and Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Judd Gregg (R-NH).
Sully
7:01 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
That's your opinion about NCLB (legislation which has been reckless at best- unfunded mandates are a joke). But how about offering some facts about how NCLB has failed local districts. You've offered your opinion- now back yourself up.
HAL E BERGER
6:45 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
This angers and frustrates me so much I could spit nickels!!! It was obvious, predictable and those people who think spending can go on forever at the taxpayer expense are about to face the reality of the times. The list included hasn't even reached or addressed the staff cuts. Some of these people at risk are my friends and they and their families are now directly in the line of fire to now be very hurt. Folks this is exactly what I was trying to point out when the teachers’ contract was set into motion. Those additional costs in a district that already has a deficit means cuts, that’s real cuts to real people. There is no other way to balance a budget. Let me be clear when programs, staff, teachers, teachers’ aides, and new teachers don't get tenure or extended and you get frustrated and angry just remember we brought this on ourselves with our failure to stand tough for the good of the whole district and community, as well as, the new teachers trying to get their careers started. You just couldn't have it both ways and now the real pain starts, sure some teacher’s will get their new increase but a lot of people are now going to be hurt by the reality of this economy and of course the union has now left a mess in their wake and are on to another battle. Folks this is no time to ask struggling families for a tax increases. (continued)
HAL E BERGER
6:49 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
(Part II) In my view a future tax increase referendum based on a failure and lack of courage by administrators and the board to stand tight in the face of deficits is not deserved. No longer in Illinois is it business as usual, people just can’t keep increasing taxes to fix someone else’s government folly by spending more taxpayer dollars that most taxpayers don’t have. A lot of people and families in D46 and some business people who are linked to D46 are now going to be hurt. It was predictable and now a lot of tenured teachers may have made a small gain at the cost of D46’s future. D46’s future is the young teachers who come with new ideas that are very energized and excited about teaching who many of which will now get pink slips.
Ed Brown
8:56 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Senate Bill 7 (June 2011) Layoffs must be based primarily on performance ratings rather than seniority.
HAL E BERGER
10:22 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Non Tenured staff never has to be re-hired they are not tenured they simply don't get re-hired.
Sully
5:56 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
I believe D46's biggest problem is at the top. Too much money going to central administration, not enough going into the schools. Also a lot of frivolous spending not having anything to do with education, such as lawsuits and FOIAs.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education/report/2011/01/19/8902/return-on-educational-investment/
Tony
6:48 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
The Center for American Progress is a progressive public policy research and advocacy organization. Its website states that the organization is "dedicated to improving the lives of Americans through progressive ideas and action". The Center presents a liberal viewpoint on economic issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress
Terri
6:57 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Yes, Tony...the Champion is a far better resource.
Sully
7:11 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
This was not liberal at all. It was a research study that basically supported your points. Why don't you try looking at something before commenting on it?
Tony
5:15 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
@ Terri: Huh?
Tony
5:17 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
@ Sully: I didn't suggest your post was liberal. I simply stated your link came from a liberal source.
Did you not read the post prior to commenting on it?
Sully
6:00 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3550
States are biting off their collective noses to spite their face.
Tony
6:49 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) is an American non-profit think tank that describes itself as a "policy organization ... working at the federal and state levels on fiscal policy and public programs that affect low- and moderate-income families and individuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_on_Budget_and_Policy_Priorities
Terri
6:58 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Again...The Champion is a far better resource, right?
Sully
7:12 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Sure thing Tony. I'm sure the research was just faked. Demonstrating your extremely closed mind there.
Tony
5:17 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
@ Terri: Again... Huh?
Tony
5:27 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
@ Sully: Speaking of faked research, did you happen to notice all the global warming which occurred overnight? lol
Come on Sully, don't be so mean spirited. A comment such as yours would suggest perhaps maybe you are the one suffering from closed mind syndrome.
I have a question for you sully, would you have the nerve to confront people, face to face, in the same manner and tone as you do here?
I think not. I think Sully's lacking testosterone levels would prohibit such an action.
But we've had this conversation in the past......
Sully
6:04 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
So Tony- it snows in the winter when it's supposed to , so that means the climate is not changing. Okay. If you really want to talk about research and the percentage of scientists around the globe who believe in it's existence vs. the percentage of those who don't, I'd be happy to provide that for you. Maybe I'll start with the Koch Brothers team who were supposed to disprove it, but came out with the opposite instead. Or maybe I'll point you in the direction of the oil and coal industry CEOs who paid millions of dollars in order to debunk scientists.
Tony
6:42 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Oh come on little Sully, we’ve been slowly warming from the last ice age for the last 10k years or so.
I know, I know; this tends to counter the creation theory (another one of your favorite immature rants).
I have to be honest with you, I don’t care about the single sided research, the percentage of scientists who believe or don’t believe, nor do care what parts of the world any of them reside.
And, I congratulate the Koch brothers for building such a successful private enterprise, which provides many opportunities for others.
Oh and those horrible oil and coal CEO’s, you libs and your goofy conspiracy theories. lol
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. Why don’t you have that little conversation with yourself, inside your closed mind…..
Sully
7:32 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
http://www.care2.com/causes/corporations-funding-climate-change-denial.html
http://www.policymic.com/articles/24604/3-states-are-pushing-a-bill-to-require-teaching-climate-change-denial-in-schools
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-denial-thinktanks-network
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/04/inside-kochs-climate-denial-machine
http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warming/global_warming_denial_machine.html
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3722126.html
http://www.prwatch.org/node/9915
http://newint.org/features/2009/12/01/corporate-influence/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/sep/20/oilandpetrol.business
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/30/us-oil-donated-millions-climate-sceptics
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Exxon_Mobil
-and so many more, but this has nothing to do with this article, Tony.
Tony
7:36 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
I just couldn't imagine having so little to do, especially on a Friday evening. Every evening for that matter. Every day if you really think about it. What a pathetic, boring, lonely existence. I suggest Sully, like so many have done, "retire" this login and create another one named Gullum. lol...
HAL E BERGER
10:58 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
All of this verbage and nonsense on the site is meaningless. Wasted debate that will have little or no iimpact on reality. The issue is a deficit that needs to be reconcilled in a continuing horrid economy where we are taxed to the max. The goal is to keep the State BOE from taking over D46 at some point. Approving the recent teachers contract with its deficit spending it was given that pain would follow. To me, It's a fools argument and fools play to think it would not have.
So now the historiical nonsensical battle cry and rally, "cut the administrators".
You don't have that many administrators and even if you can cut your leaders who will do the State and Federal manadated work? Administrators earn a reasonable salary for their administrative responsibility. It is easy to forget that almost all administrators were once teachers who stepped up to the plate and took on the added tasks. I don't happen to think anyone in D46 is overpaid for what we ask them to do. In a perfect world I would want to find a way to pay everyone in D46 more, but then we wake up to FINANCIAL REALITY !!! Grayslake everywhere can no llonger live beyond its means and now we must do the best that we can to educate our children with what we have. So free up the teachers to innovate in the classroom and stop this standardized education nonsense and we can do much more with what we have. Children are not standardized.
Sully
11:24 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Yes, Grayslake has fewer administrators in the central office than other districts, but those that D46 has, I would not consider particularly competent. I'm not referring to principals; I'm referring the ones who lead supervisory roles as district directors.
Sully
11:43 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
I also agree with what you say about "standardized" education if you are referring to testing. The ISAT handcuffs a lot of teachers, and they take real teaching time out of the day (not just in D46). Schools start preparing for the ISATs any number of weeks before the actual administration of the test, lose more time during the testing (what kid seriously wants to take a long boring test and then go listen to lecture or instruction the rest of the day?). With MAP and Aimsweb testing, the outcomes are used to gauge where a student is at a particular time , and identifies students who may need additional assistance . Those tests are not ideal, but the purpose for which they are used is legitimate. ISATs simply compare a student's score with what other students in their grade score at a particular time during the year. Scores don't come back until well after the tests have been taken, so essentially, they do nothing for a specific student. At this point, those scores are used to evaluate teachers even though that was not what they were designed to do.
HAL E BERGER
3:39 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Our public education system is broken. Its more than just the testing. It is what we have done to restrict teachers from teaching, being creative, and forward thinking in the class room. We can't expect a world class education when each student is treated as a milk toast cog in an eveeryone gets taught the same wheel. Yes, teaching to a test is horrid, but teaching the whole year the same material to every single child regardless is a total disaster for our children and our country.
When I was in third grade at a private school I was learning algebra, French, music theory & building scales, & what passes for HS general science. We were building & designing accurate scale solar systems. No one bothered to tell us that 3rd graders didn't learn algebra or French, so we did. That is what an unrestricted system can do for our children. By the way I went to that school when the public school failed me & held me back a year. They didn't know what to do with me. I was bored, what did they expect. The private school took the time to listen to me, me not some standardized concept & put me back up that year instantly. I was a top student because someone cared enough to know me & not provide same for everyone education. I say this not to brag but to point out that if you expect more, free up our teachers to teach, & you will get more. Once free it won’t take long to determine who the teachers are that lack the skills or motivation.
Sully
6:20 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
How long ago was that, Hal? I didn't take it that you were bragging. I didn't attend public schools either. I know public schools are not for everyone, and they obviously have their faults. I do know public school districts today, and I can tell you that not all are teaching the same stuff to all of the kids regardless of their skills. I've been impressed by some schools and I've been horrified by some. Sometimes both within the same district. It's not fair to generalize all public schools into a lump sum. There are too many variables within a school system, and in individual schools, to compare them all the same way.
HAL E BERGER
7:40 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
(part I) What difference does it make how long ago I was in school? ,,, The key is who today is teaching these courses to third graders and why not? If I could learn algebra, music theory, & French in 3rd grade then so can our children learn whatever high level skills they will need to face our future job markets competing in a global economy. Teaching to tests, is driven by programs like "no child left behind" and other federal and state mandates. In public education yes granted some schools don't teach at all, and a very few excel like the New Trier and the Stevensen District do. In these schools the parents demand their children be taught at a much higher level and they won’t sit silent and wait for someone else to do it for them. Yes, there are some here who demand it, we are one of those families, but they are few, and overpowered by a weak system bogged down in government red tape and the political correctness to treat everyone the same. NONSENSE I SAY !!! We were one of the parents who taught our kids, perhaps you may be too? It seems the ones who wanted more for their children were the ones who were active at our schools and BOE meetings. No we didn’t all agree on a lot of topics but we all agreed and demanded more for our children. We learned fast and didn’t wait for someone else to do it.
HAL E BERGER
7:41 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
(part II) Many families including ours taught our children what they could not get or learn in public school. Yes high level reading, writing, French, math, and music at our own expense. Straight A’s that some view as the exception we viewed as necessary to succeed in a changing world. Look at schools where the parents fight for their children, Stevenson and New Trier has so many students high level students they dominate the school. Most easily get into colleges and many are not only qualified to apply they are prepared to do the heavy lifting it takes to excel in college. They are prepared and it doesn’t just take dollars to do this it takes parents with a drive. As I look closely the parents are constantly involved and as a result the educators are on their toes and are excited. This is what they were trained for. This is what a good teacher wants to teach and with the children’s parents help they get it. The point about many good schools is not accepted at all, there are too few. I see and talk about what is entering college and today many children are not prepared. Yes, there are many exceptions but not enough. I live in a world surrounded by teachers, professors, administrators, superintendents, professionals of all kinds, and even psychologists. An common comment by the professors I know very well they protest often that so many students in the first year of college at our state universities, that's if they can survive the first semester, --
Sully
8:13 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
New Trier and Stevenson are also populated by those with a lot of money. Not much poverty in those areas, not a lot of kids lacking for anything.
HAL E BERGER
8:28 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Money isn't the issue parental attitude is. It doesn't take a lot of money to demand more from yourself, your children or a school. Obama is not always my favorite but he is an example of "I can do it" no one else but him and his family got this poor kid through Harvard.
Sully
9:43 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Money is an issue if you don't have it. You can't pay for outside tutoring if it's needed, you can't "buy" a diagnosis such as ADHD in order to have special accommodations given on local and state tests, and college entrance exams, you can't always provide enough food for your children, and you don't have the luxury of buying computers, educational software, and learning toys for the younger kids. Parental attitude is very important, but so is just being able to live day to day. College educated parents are also better for the kids, but not everyone is college educated. Using money the same way for all IS a waste, but if used appropriately, it can provide resources that would help reach and educate the students (or schools, I should say), in a more realistic way.
Sully
9:59 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Hal, you are also assuming that everyone has the same intellectual ability that you have. Even for kids who want to do well, if they don't have the basic skills, or have a learning disability or a cognitive impairment, they will not learn as easily as you were able to. They CAN learn- I wouldn't say they can't, but they may need different avenues in order to learn.
One more thought- research has proven that early exposure to education and young children being challenged cognitively with a broad variety of experiences, develops the mind to be more open to learning. The young mind needs stimulation or it will not be as proficient as it could be. Students who have not been stimulated beforehand, and who have not been exposed to early educational opportunities enter Kindergarten already behind their peers. In today's academic environment, when entering Kindergarten, kids have to already know things that when we were kids (or at least when I was a kid), weren't even thought about until sometime in the first grade at the least. Child development is no longer considered when curriculums are being formed, and that is not fair. My point is, the playing field is not the same for all students even when in the same grade.
Lennie Jarratt
5:22 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Thanks for helping my argument for school choice.
Terri
6:36 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Speaking of which, should funding follow the child, where would those funds come from? Whose money will "follow the child"?
Sully
6:52 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Sorry Lennie. I prefer making the public schools better, rather than throwing them away. Some Charters actually follow rules and have a standard. CPS has some, as a matter of fact. They don't try to teach some made up, Christian fundamentalist version of life on Earth or revisionist history. Unregulated charters are not held accountable for either its curriculum or it's usage of public monies. Some for-profit charters break so many rules, and use so much money to line their leaders' pockets, these people should be in jail. But hey, when you have something that's not held accountable or has no regulations, what can you expect? No Lennie, I'm not advocating for more charter schools. Sorry about that.
Sully
6:53 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Well Terri, certainly not Lennie's.
Lennie Jarratt
12:45 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
There you go again, making stuff up about what I want and then still expect me to answer your questions. So predictable.
HAL E BERGER
7:42 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
(part III ) Our children in many cases are not remotely prepared or motivated to do college level work. Our education system, is milk toast and our country as a result is in decline. Many of our youth does not, will not, or cannot produce to build that future for their families and our nation. So many young people today entering the job market don’t want to work hard enough to learn their field or to build a career for their own future. I found over the recent years, and I still find as a professional and a leader in my field that if the job is too complex more than a few give up and only a few are driven to do what it takes to succeed. Many graduate college and are not prepared, they expect a high level position with a lot of pay but they can’t do the job and are not prepared. They can’t handle the demands it takes to learn or do the job. It takes knowledge, skill, and quality to do this new worlds more demanding jobs. Many of us are not demanding, today it may not be the courses I had in 3rd grade but the point is we can demand and expect much more form both schools and our children. As parents and educators we need to grasp that is what the milk toast and entitlement society is creating, a second class nation mind set.
Terri
7:47 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Whoa...someone have a cocktail?
Nightcrawler
7:54 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Curmudgeon on the rocks.
HAL E BERGER
8:03 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
No !!! I rarely drink -- I'm just livid ----
I dedicated 4 years to D46 as a BOE member and President and my group worked very hard to leave D46 in good shape. We did fairly well at it. D46 didn't have to be at this point where they are over $2mm in deficit and will now be forced to cut important staff, young teachers, and programs.
I'm angry because tough decisions needed to be made and they were not made - not by the BOE - not by the administrative team - and in this incredibly tough economy where home prices are still not where they should be but property taxes have not declined this makes it almost impossible to present and pass a referendum.
Now Grayslake D46 faces choices that will be even more frustrating, angering, and harder on the community.
Lennie Jarratt
5:27 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
You are so correct Hal. Too many on here don't want to make any cuts. They just want more and more regardless of the economics in the district, state, and country.
Sully
6:55 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
Lennie, I've always heard you don't pay your taxes. Is that true?