Job creation? We have lost over 8 million jobs since this President has passed several stimulus job bills, but we need to do it again?

"Schakowsky, Schneider Laud State of the Union"

Two Democrats liked a Dem president's SOTU speech? Shocking! Film at 11!

"speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.” Like wasting over 100 billion on pinwheels and shingle companies that fund the Democrat Party?

“But if Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will,” Like supercede your Constitutional authority as you have in the past.

It was an excellent State of the Union. The President stated what needs to be done and a clear vision for the future. Of course, the Republicans would rather dodge clear messages from the citizens, such as a 92% desire for universal background checks. I guess what really matters to them is what their lobbyist tells them at power lunches. Rubio looked like a scared rabbit and not ready to be President. If he is the future of the Republican Party, I say....that's all you've got? Hillary 16!

I didn't watch it, but agree there is a clear vision for the future, continued loss of jobs, contraction of GDP, class division, political smearing, and refusal to address the catastrophic debt.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama did some cherry-picking Tuesday night in defense of his record on jobs and laid out a conditional path to citizenship for illegal immigrants that may be less onerous than he made it sound.
A look at some of the claims in his State of the Union speech, a glance at the Republican counterargument and how they fit with the facts:
OBAMA: “After years of grueling recession, our businesses have created over 6 million new jobs.”
THE FACTS: That’s in the ballpark, as far as it goes. But Obama starts his count not when he took office, but from the point in his first term when job losses were the highest. In doing so, he ignores the 5 million or so jobs that were lost on his watch, up to that point.
Private sector jobs have grown by 6.1 million since February 2010. But since he became president, the gain is a more modest 1.9 million.
And when losses in public sector employment are added to the mix, his overall jobs record is close to a wash. And when losses in public sector employment are added to the mix, his overall jobs record is a gain of 1.2 million.

WASHINGTON (AP) — OBAMA: “We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas.”
THE FACTS: Not so fast.
That’s expected to happen in 12 more years.
Under a deal the Obama administration reached with automakers in 2011, vehicles will have a corporate average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025, twice the 27 miles per gallon, on average, that cars and trucks get today. Automobile manufacturers won’t start making changes to achieve the new fuel economy standards until model year 2017. Not all cars will double their gas mileage, since the standard is based on an average of a manufacturers’ fleet.

WASHINGTON (AP) — OBAMA: “Real reform means establishing a responsible pathway to earned citizenship – a path that includes passing a background check, paying taxes and a meaningful penalty, learning English and going to the back of the line behind the folks trying to come here legally.”
THE FACTS: The seemingly stern admonition that illegal immigrants must go to the back of the line, often heard from the president, doesn’t appear to have much practical effect except in the most obvious sense. Everyone who joins a line, whether for a movie, a coffee or citizenship, starts at the back of that particular line. It’s not clear he is saying anything more than that illegal immigrants won’t get to cut in line for citizenship once they’ve obtained provisional legal status.
Like those living abroad who have applied to come to the U.S. legally, illegal immigrants who qualify for Obama’s proposed path to citizenship will surely face long waits to be processed. But during that time, they are already in the U.S. and will get to stay, work and travel in the country under their new status as provisional immigrants, while those outside the U.S. simply have to wait.

Additionally, Sending illegal immigrants to the “back of the line” is something of a distinction without a difference for some legal immigrants who dutifully followed all the rules before coming to the United States.
For instance, some legal immigrants who are in the U.S. on an employer-sponsored visa can’t easily change jobs, or in some cases take a promotion, without jeopardizing their place in line to get a green card. In other cases, would-be legal immigrants in other countries wait for years to be able to settle in the U.S.
Obama is using “back of the line” somewhat figuratively, because there are multiple lines depending on the applicant’s relationship with family already in the U.S. or with an employer. Generally, a foreign-born spouse of a U.S. citizen or someone with needed skills and a job offer will be accepted more quickly than many others.
But even as a figurative point, his assertion may cloak the fact that people who came to the U.S. illegally and win provisional status have the great advantage over applicants abroad of already being where they all want to go.

WASHINGTON (AP) — OBAMA: “I urge this Congress to pursue a bipartisan, market-based solution to climate change, like the one John McCain and Joe Lieberman worked on together a few years ago. But if Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will. I will direct my Cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.”
THE FACTS: Obama failed to get a global warming bill through Congress when both Houses were controlled by Democrats in 2010. With Republicans in control of the House, the chances of a bill to limit the gases blamed for global warming and to create a market for businesses to trade pollution credits are close to zero. The Obama administration has already acted to control greenhouse gases through existing law. It has boosted fuel-efficiency standards and proposed rules to control heat-trapping emissions from new power plants. And while there are still other ways to address climate change without Congress, it’s questionable regulation alone can achieve the reductions needed to start curbing global warming.

Oooh- "the Muslim" (in another thread) and "two commies". Poor Vicky. Such a hard life that's all the democrats' fault.

I'm picturing you as an older, slightly chubby woman who sits in an old rocker all day, except when there's a tea party event and then I see you in your red, white, and blues carrying a sign with at least one misspelling and something about our Muslim president who was really born in Kenya. In the corner of your sign is a picture of Obama with a stick going through his nose and war paint on his face and chest. Close?

lol not even! You would be shocked.

McCloud, here's another thing that was omitted from the definition of 'Liberal': defending blatant criminals. Re: Jan Schakowsky (from Wikipedia):
Husband's bank fraud and tax evasion convictions
On March 11, 2004, Schakowsky's husband, lobbyist Robert Creamer, the executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund, was indicted in federal court on 16 counts of bank fraud involving three alleged check-kiting schemes in the mid-1990s, leading several banks to experience shortfalls of at least $2.3 million. In August 2005, Creamer pleaded guilty to one count of failure to collect withholding tax, and bank fraud for writing checks with insufficient funds. All of the money was repaid. Schakowsky was not accused of any wrongdoing. Schakowsky served on the organization's board during the time the crimes occurred, and Schakowsky signed the IRS filings along with her husband. U.S. District Judge James B. Moran noted no one suffered "out of pocket losses," and Creamer acted not out of greed but in an effort to keep his community action group going without cutting programs, though Creamer paid his own $100,000 salary with fraudulently obtained funds. On April 5, 2006, Creamer was sentenced to five months in prison and 11 months of house arrest. Creamer served his five-month incarceration at the Federal Correction Institute in Terre Haute, Indiana and was released on November 3, 2006.

Hey. again I didn't watch the speech, but did he mention the ambassador's family and how our prayers should go out to them for their loss, a man who dedicated his life to serve this country? Maybe he should not have been playing basketball during the 9/11 seige.

Sully, based on the Obama comment and other clues, I think she is the Vicky Kujawa who states she lives in Palm Springs, Ca. with ties to the Chicago area.

Manufacturing jobs rose to 11,950,000 by January 2013!!!! Obama said in the speech last night that 500,000 manufacturing jobs have been added since he became president!!!!!! Things are looking up!!!!!!!!!! However, when he became president in January 2009 there were 12,556,000 manufacturing jobs? That's a net loss of 606,000 jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice going Prez! Your economy plans are doing just what everyone with a brain thought they would, NOTHING! So what say you Liberal sheep? Rate the Prez's performance for now it is HIS ECONOMY! Of course considering this is the first real job he has ever had you can't expect too much! Please defend this dismal performance and spin the facts. Source:these are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics!

The sad fact is, if you're a rich limousine Liberal or a corrupt Democrat things are great; for the rest of the populace not so much. J.Lyn, if you're so concerned about where I live, why not stop by for a cup of tea sometime? Look me up. :)

Vicky, Thank you for the invite. Personally I am not concerned about your where-abouts or beliefs. Sully was using his imagination about you so I was simply pointing him towards your Facebook page. There he might compare his image of you to how you represent yourself to friends and family. Nothing more than that. But, thank you again for the invite, unfortunately I drink neither tea or Kool-Aid. :)

Vicky, I would like to challenge you to find accurate information about the state of the economy. You have been grossly mislead. My first challenge is for you to find out which party the highest paid CEOs belong to and the wealthiest Americans. You can begin with the Kochs. Not what Fox says about them, but instead, look a little deeper. Maybe into their oil holdings, to their illegal dealings with Iran, to their financing of your tea party, to their intensional misinformation regarding climate change. There's a plethora of information out there about the Koch brothers. Learn something.

All the name calling and nastiness aside, look at Illinois, Chicago, Cook County and Evanston. All broke, all Democratic and some corrupt. Obama comes from a fine tradition. His hero, Saul Alinsky was trained by Frank Nitti, Capone's number 2. there were many who thought Capone was a hero. I guess we in Illinois have to keep up our traditions.

So Vick, how's that research coming?

Vicki- Americans for Prosperity or FreedomWorks?

Perhaps this is the list you're looking for, Sully:
http://newamericangazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Campaign-Contributions-of-20-richest-people.pdf
The good news is when you see the figures for the net worth of these billionaires it becomes clear that it takes two Kochs to make a Buffett. The bad news is if the government confiscated the entire net worth of all the individuals on this list the money would be spent in about 40 days. But we don't have a spending problem, right?

It is my understanding that In some emergency rooms in Illinois and elsewhere, parents are now being asked to leave the examing room in which they have accompanied a minor child and then the minor patient is asked if there are guns in their home. Does this not remind one of Nazi Germany where children were encouraged to spy on their parents. 1984 indeed.

A little history: as most of you know, the Romans became corrupt as all socieities eventually do. The Germanic tribes were a jealous lot and were not happy just destroying Rome. They killed and burned until there was nothing left, no knowledge, no skills, no tradition and NO MONEY. From 400 to 1200 there wasn't much in Europe except a miserable, short and brutish life. Point being, just because you take from the haves doe not mean success and prosperity for the have-nots. Quite the opposite. My welfare depends on me not on how many wealthy people there are or are not and I know that governmental promises are a ruse and that taking from some to give to others will eventually lead to collapse. Caring for the weakest and poorest among us is our responsibility and we or our government should do that, but we are way beyond that now.

Sully,

I did not say forced. I said asked. but twisting words and twisted thoughts are a liberal's tools. as for health risks in the home, maybe patients should be asked about stairs or bleach or glass or power tools or plastic bags or ovens or dogs or .......or the danger of the day from which the state socialists will protect us from ourselves. If the government wants that information let them place someone there to ask the question. A physician's duty is not healthcare. It is medical care, to diagnose the problem presented and fix it if he can. The government barely pays for that much less spying for the state.

Sully...Kudos to you and RB for fighting the good fight against these rabid Sea-Monkeys...the likes of McClown and Sicky...and not to forget Jimbo and
D.Krud. I know it gets tiring attempting to clue in the eternally clueless. I say...let the losers wallow in their own arrogant ignorance. Actually...if you can stand back far enough...it is rather interesting and fun watching the CONservatives circle the drain. Some of the brighter ones know it...but most .... like this tank of rabid Sea-Monkeys haven't a clue and they are the funniest to watch. They will defend their ignorance to the bloody end. So...my advise...kick back and let them chew themselves to shreds...for what will ultimately be a no win situation. Again....kudos on your gallant attempt.

...back from Cali so fast, Just Lyin'........or were you just lyin' about that, too?

Hey Vick, something just for you! You'll probably like it to McCloud.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/14/tinfoil-hat-alert-conspiracy-theorists-now-claim-obama-is-a-master-assassin-video/

I would have to agree; he has done a bang-up job assassinating the economy.

Vicki, maybe I missed it....but I don't think you ever told us how long 14 year old rape victims should spend in prison after being convicted of murder after having an abortion. If I recall you said something about the same time as anyone throwing their baby in the dumpster. Just how long? What about the accessories to the 'murder' like her Mom for driving her to the Clinic, the nurse, the Doctor? Maybe even the escorts who protect them from fanatics like you and Westboro Baptist Church. How long Vicki?

Well obviously the doctor gets the death penalty. It's okay to kill 'em after they're born. The driver of the car? I don't know. How long do accessories to murder typically stay in jail. The girl who had the abortion? Life in prison without parole so she can agonize over what happened for a good long time. As an extra, if the rapist is in the area, he should be the only one allowed visitation rights.

I dunno, RC; who not ask Blagojevich, Schakowsky, Jesse, Jr., or one of your other Lib Gods/Goddesses? My vote doesn't count anyway.

So Sully needs "proof" unless he/she is personally aware unless of course a leftist says something which is always true. Ah, the glories of an open mind.

Well Jim, in the real world one usually relies on proof when an assertion is made. Such as the sky really isn't blue. It looks blue to our eyes because of the way light is refracted. Gravity is the force which keeps us all from floating into space. The earth revolves around the sun and that is why we have seasons. The moon revolves around the earth. We know these things because they have been proven, not because someone told us so and we blindly believe. That may be how you work, but most people require some kind of proof in order to believe something.

McCloud, don't waste your time praying for their souls. they probably do not believe in God because they have not seen him/her personally and probably do not believe that humans have souls because they haven't seen a soul either.

Just Lyin' must be having a wonderful time in Cali hanging on the 'net thinking of new and exciting Lib insults to cyberhurl.

Just Lyin' missed us, McC!

If minimum wage needs to be increased for the poor, why not $35 per hour, that way folks that work at McDonalds can afford a home and make a living wage. Anyone who opposes this just doesn't have a heart.

McCloud may just be on to something; why stop at a paltry $9.00? Home health care workers should unionize and demand outstanding wages, raises and benefits also......or FLATLY REFUSE to care for the deluge of unhealthy Baby Boomers coming down the pipeline (that's the REAL reason for letting in the illegals....cheap labor to care for them!). Libs looooooove unions, right?

Bigot: One who is narrrowly or intolerantly devoted to his or her opinions and prejudices. Sounds like the very definition of Liberal 'Progressives'. Just callin' 'em like I see 'em!

Vicky, So having read many of your comments in this thread and others and in reference to the definition you kindly supplied I am now pretty sure you are a " liberal progressive".

I know you are but what am I........? :P

Vicky, I have not heard that childish remark since I was in elementary school ! As a woman of mature years Vicky you sure sound rather immature !

I am young at heart. :)

Better get her crackin' on that banana and birth control then. Just Lyin', is that you? J.Lyn.....is that supposed to be a sobriquet 'a la J.Lo.......?

You must be in Bakersfield if you are this bored in Cali.