Just anything to promote yourself Mr. Jarratt?

The PNN (Pretend News Network) scoops again!

Just exposing the truth.

Don't forget...it's always about Mr Jarratt...Did you take the time to dig and "expose the truth" in this context when the drunk you supported for BOE got her DUI?
LOL!!!

Grow up! You just don't like the title of his piece and the fact that he reported it. With your lame logic, Lennie just shouldn't post anything. Welcome to the first amendment. Who will it be next that you attack to try to make them not post anything on here, Bully? This is just a distraction from the story, as ALWAYS!

This story is exactly why it is wrong to post anonymously on here. Like this gentleman, he gets on the phone where he think he wouldn't have to be held accountable, and lies himself! I don't believe he has any kids in the district at all. When you have to be held accountable because people know who you are, then the lying stops and people act more civil... and yes, before the personage of "Terri", I have learned this lesson personally. But people that have posted above, haven't learned that and never intend to let their identity to be know, because they are cowards.

Uh, Len? "Exposing the truth" had already been taken care of.

LMJ
Why wasn't Mr Jarratt as zealous about "exposing the truth" about the drunk BOE member he supported that got a DUI? Does TRUTH only need to be exposed about criminals who differ with his opinion? To be precise, here's what I object to regarding Mr Jarratt's post above:
1.) He found this worthy of his time because it was a teacher involved. When the drunk BOE member he supported story broke, he supported her and her family and offered condolences. Isn't drunk driving as harmful to the community as Mr Culp's infraction?
2.) He refers, by hyperlink, to his phoney news source in an attempt to legitimize it.
3.) He only selectively exposes the truth; that is, truths he feels are in line with his narrow scope.

I see you want to continue to ignore the facts and just distract.

The only thing I find distracting is YOU!
LOL!!!

Please show me where the Patch wrote that it was a substitute teacher, then I will stand corrected. Bully! At least Lennie contributes to the discussion, all you do is come on here and harass people, and try to distract from teh story... like ALWAYS!

Lennie, what is it with you and your standard reply about ignoring the facts? It doesn't even matter what the poster says- you seem to automatically scream "ignoring the facts". You're a master at that, Len, so maybe you're just projecting. Terri isn't ignoring anything. She wants an answer to something else. We all know she'll never get it though.

Oh, were you and Lisa addressing me? Oh, of course, I'm always the one ignoring the facts by posting numerous research-based article links and then asking you to respond. I'm such a bully. Of course, this is particularly heinous because it's a substitute teacher. I bet Ellen put him up to it too. So here's Lennie and Lisa selling something in a way that is nonsense, but fits their purposes just fine. Why would a couple hate schoolteachers as much as you two seem to do?

Good ole Sully. Always making sure that posts go south and totally divert people's attention away from the subject at hand. Don't worry, Terri picks up where you leave off, or not. Who knows, maybe we will have one less poster on the patch because of these charges, or maybe not. Who knows. No one does as long as there is anonymous posting from Bullies on here with no accountability.

Yes Lisa. Hey, I found this comment particularly relevant to the article-

"Don't forget the gift cards for votes, Sue Facklam."

Thank you so much for mentioning that totally relevant contribution.

It's so nice the way you ignore your husband's refusal to answer any legitimate question asked of him So cute how you back his nonsense up with more nonsense of your own. Maybe I could post all the RESEARCH-BASED articles for you to respond to, and then you could ignore them too. I'm sure you guys are just a blast at home when you're together. Either ignore or absolutely agree with each other while offering no intellectual or stimulating debate requiring you to think. How fun.

Shannon, I'm sorry you had to put up with the idiocy of this caller and I'm happy he was caught. I'm sorry you felt it necessary to resign from the school board, because in essence, you let this guy win.

As I said, far south, Sully. It was relevant to how the person ahead of me was responding to this article. Your comments are "attack Lennie".

Golly gee whiz, Lisa, telling lies now? Where did I write "attack Lennie"? Nope, you're a liar who's just attacking me. Now I think you owe me an apology for telling such a blatant lie, wouldn't you agree? Gosh, who would've known you'd end up being such a liar. A blatant liar at that. Hey Lennie, your wife just told a blatant lie. I do hope you'll talk to her about this.

Sully I see you continue to lie.

Sully 8:49 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 "I attack you"

Sullivan commented on the article Gift Giving A Violation: "And I will continue to attack YOU for who you are and what you truly represent."

Sully 5:16 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013 "And yes, I will continue to attack"

I can find more examples if you wish to continue the lies.

I'm sorry Len, but Lisa said that I said that in this thread, therefore, she was lying. But for future reference, and Shannon, since this is really your thread, maybe you can assist me- I ask Lennie questions pertaining to charter schools and school choice, while providing research-based evidence that does not support his premise. He has refused each and every time to comment on what I say. Instead, he calls me a liar and ignores the reality of my question. As a resident within the D46 district, and a parent of kids who attend public schools, would you not want Lennie to explain his disdain for public schools and his insistence that charter schools should be the solution when research has shown that charter schools on the whole have not been effective, and sometimes are worse than public schools? This is all I have asked of him- why should charter schools be funded by public money, taking funding away from the traditional public schools, when there is little proof that overall, the charters are better. Until he can provide an answer, I will continue to confront (attack) him for misleading the public.

Hey Len, do you just have a button on your computer that says , "Sully I see you continue to lie.", because that's about the only response I ever get from you. That's called avoidance Lennie. What are you avoiding?

Sully, with each new article, sometimes with each new post... you get amnesia. Challenging Lennie, and now me, to prove where you said something, he does, you distract to something else. Blah, blah, snoring blah!

Sully's plan is always the same, to distort and draw away from the post, so that everyone gets sick of his ludicrous comments and clicks... "stop following" to the comments. He haunts MANY Patch township articles and they are sick of him on there too. Sully is a troll. Pure and simple.

I'm trying to keep your intelligence level out of this Lisa, but it's becoming more difficult with each comment either you or Lennie make. Try to understand this- ill use the easiest words I can think of- I have presented Lennie with article after article of research- based information that shows Lennie's posits on charters have not been proven to be effective. . I have asked Lennie to tell us how he would make education better. I have challenged him to provide real world answers, but the truth is, he cannot. He spouts meaningless platitudes and says he won't answer my questions because I'm a liar. First of all, what you and he call lies do not meet the true definition of the word, and second, what does that have to do with answering a simple question anyway? He is the liar here because he makes he says he knows the answers, just won't tell me (how adult of him). Lisa- neither of you have the slightest idea about real world solutions related to education. You have no clue! It doesn't take a genius to see that. So go ahead and pretend you know something. Most of us know that you don't. Now shouldn't it be about your bedtime? Children need their sleep.

Once again resorting to personal insults I see.

If you believe you are so right, then why are you so afraid to come out in public and debate the issue away from the vitriol and personal attacks here on the patch? Step up to the plate Sully and come out of the shadows. Stop hiding behind a fake identity and tell people who you really are.

I am not afraid to debate you in public. I am ready, willing and able to be up front and transparent about who I am. I put my name on my writing because I am willing to stand up to your and others bullying and threats. I will not run and hide.

Please explain to me how threatening a child is "in the best interest of the children who live within the district."

I think he was trying to be sarcastic. Sure hope so, anyway.

Give the lineus longissimus a prize......

"The Liberals do not want to be able to defend themselves against violent attack"
THAT is one of the most ignorant comments I've ever read. One does not need to be a Liberal to not want to carry or even own a firearm.
We, obviously, do not know how old your children are, but I know damn well they can't bring a gun to school.

You really are a lunatic. You are no better than the cretin who made the call, and are a shining example of what is wrong with this country. Bravo.

Gosh Dan- it's always those liberals, isn't it? And if you ere referring to wanting background checks before gun ownership, even some of those conservative folks are for that.

Doug, Dan brought one of his kids to the meeting that was held in Glenview recently to present information about gun control. Dan and his NRA buddies overtook the event with obnoxious yelling and constant interruptions of the speakers. The NRA members got to the event early so as to keep the realistic adults among us out. Dan didn't get into the meeting either, so he stayed outside taking proud pictures of his son displaying the American flag and glorifying the almighty gun.

Don't forget the gift cards for votes, Sue Facklam.

I so agree !

Don't forget Mr Jarratt's buddy, ex-BOE member that got a DUI!!!

Terri, to whom are you referring (ex-BOE with DUI)? I'm in and out so not always up to date. I didn't know Shannon resigned until I saw this article.

Now THAT would be interesting. Those same people who were arguing with me and said it just wasn't right what he did to Shannon, would they have the guts to just "do what is right" and hand over that video, no matter what their political or positional bias was? Let's see, Tara.

D46 residents, if you were at Park the last night of negotations and took video, specifically of the confrontation between me and a man, whom I now know to be Chris Culp, PLEASE, get those videos to me or the police or even post it on you tube and put a link here. As I said the day after negotiations in a post/comment on an article here, at Park, he taunted me about my daughters. What he said I will not print here but it was similar enough, frightening enough, that I stopped and yelled: "Are you the man who threatened my kids?". He denied it that day. I only found out in the last few weeks that it was Chris Culp. Any video would be helpful in establishing that it was not just the threatening phone call, but a course of conduct that was harassing/threatening.
Several of you said you taped it. Someone mentioned a news camera man taping it.
I'm again asking for YOUR help for my family. Please check your cameras and see if you have any video of it. THANK YOU!
To those that have wished me and my family well: From our hearts, THANK YOU! It means more to us than you know!

Shannon Smigielski

Shannon, I have a whole bunch of pictures from that night. I will send them to you. I think Lennie has some video, but I don't know if he got that. I KNOW that ABC News was right there, when you were yelling. I would contact them.

And you Lennie, are a proven joke.

This is not about you (as hard as that may be for you to understand), so how about letting the adults converse about the article. Is that okay with you, little guy?

You stated, "the message you send is that if someone decides to intimidate someone in particular in order to get rid of that person, and succeeds, you've given the victory to the intimidator" You just gave the reasons why I will do not "just go away" as many want here. I will not be intimidated by you or the other bullies who on here. I will continue to fight for what is right regardless of what you or others say or do.

Get over yourself Lennie. What you fight for is nothing. You look only to stay in the limelight; pretending you're an important man. I'm not trying to intimidate you. I'm trying to get at least one single answer from you that proves you have any idea you know what you're talking about. So far you've failed miserably. Your moment in the sun is long past Lennie-now you're just the proverbial relative who won't end his visit to another relative's house no matter how much he's not wanted.

I know you want to distort and lie about my reasons for doing what I do. For those that want the truth here it is:

1. I will work to ensure ALL children have access to a quality education.

2. I will work to protect teachers jobs from unsustainable demands of their union leaders.

3. I will fight unfunded mandates at both the state and federal levels that interfere with local school control and the abilities for teachers to teach ALL children effectively. This includes the unfunded mandates pushed by union leaders.

This has never been about me. It is about ensuring our children's future. I wouldn't take all the abusive comments and threats if this was about me. Anyone that wants to know more is free to contact me.

No I will not answer your questions Sully. You are a proven liar and with your stated goal of attacking me there will never be an honest discussion of the facts here on the Patch. If you truly want an honest discussion, then once again. let's setup a forum, in person. Or, are you still afraid to come out of the shadows and let people know your true identity?

Bravo, Lennie! Believe me, this is true. The Bullies (like Carl, Sully, Terri or whatever "they" are calling themselves today) have actually empowered our family instead of chasing us away, like so many really concerned, good, smart people in this district. I'm sick of it, while this district continues to look at higher and higher taxes and corruption, that ALL the surrounding districts talk about.

Sad thing is, the next article, Sully will have amnesia again, and he will say whatever lie he wants and claim he/she never said that.

Shannon, I hope what I sent you helps, and I hope all of these people that claim to be supportive of you, give you answers and film. There were a lot of people there that night. I hope they do the right thing. Let me know if you didn't get it and I will make sure you have it.

Thanks for that input Lisa. However now that you are a proven liar, we can't believe anything you say (even if you have research-based evidence to support your position).

Sully, thanks for once again proving my point for me.

Why do you assume this had anything to do wit the union? It seems to me this is an angry individual who used incredibly bad judgement- not an orchestrated act by some group.

There really wasn't a right or wrong decision in this case. Shannon had to do what she felt was best for her, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's her life to decide about. I was stating my opinion. I would much rather have her lose in a legitimate fair election than be chased away by an idiot. It's bad for the country when people try to override the will of the voters.

I would agree with you Mr. Gardner, if I did not have anything to say about the subject of the article in which we are posting. If you wish to go back and re-read, you'll see that I have posted several comments regarding the actual subject. Not trying to parse words here, but I don't believe any of Mr. Jarratt's comments are relevant, unless you count the post in which he provides a link to his own article. I truly apologize for my continuing banter with Lennie, but until he proves his worth, I'll keep pushing him. I'll try to keep it to a minimum on threads that really have nothing to do with him.

Pete, possibly you can come up with a better idea then. Lennie has tried to not post after Sully answering his taunts that ARE totally irrelevant to the post and goes right into attacking and lying about Lennie. You might be thinking, turn the other cheek... well the problem is, as long as people are allowed to tell lies on here and in the schools about my Lennie, than what form does he have to try to convince people otherwise? He tried to warn Sully on here that if he didn't stop, then there would be a law suit, but the Patch wouldn't allow him to post it! I know your name on here is real, so I am posting this to you. As long as people can post comments that aren't true on here with anonymity, then there is no accountability. I would invite you to re-look at the comments posted, and click on Sully's name and look at his comments on other posts. Then go and look at Lennie's. Unlike me, he tries to take the higher road. I just get sick of people thinking ill will of us from the lies like Sully writes and they don't even know us, bother to find out what Lennie is talking about, and that he is fighting for balance and things that are important to all the people of this district, state, and country. Think what you want of me, whatever. My husband is a good man, and I tell you, our whole family has put up with more than anyone in the district has put up with. Many of the people have effectively left... either the district, or fighting because of the personal attacks. Cont..

So by you saying that Mr. Jarratt needs to be eliminated from posting here, that is truly sad. Yes, he got to my husband last night. Yes, he should have just stopped with Sully, but if you say stuff like this, then Sully has achieved exactly what his aim is. To eliminate or keep Lennie from posting. He continues to ask and lie about Lennie in every post. So, is Lennie just supposed to allow people to believe what Sully writes on here? Because with each new post, he asks and lies about him. Each one!

It is against my better judgement to respond so lets chalk this up to old age. LMJ, Mr. Jarrat, Mr. Sully, you waste more time and space arguing about who is right. It matters not if you post on the content of the topic for you all turn the comments into a circus that veers off sooner not later. You have the right to particpate here. But each of you are responsible for making a mochary of yourself and Grayslake with your need to one up each other. You remind me of petulant children "He did it! No He did it!". Credibility is gone as you've lost self control. Blame the other but each of you is equally draining with your excessive posts. Not a one of you is going to listen to the other so stop trying to make your point. You will never convince the other so why subject all of us to your parade of arguing. I said I've grown weary of the banter. Any chance each of you would honor an elder's request and please stop?

I'll attempt to honor your request, Mr. Gardner. As I stated earlier, I will try to stay only on the topic at hand. And I wonder, how much more of an elder are you than me. I'll honor you as an individual rather than an elder!

Hi Marvin, Thanks for your comment. To clarify, the bigger papers don't feed into Patch. We are our own independent publication. Regarding the Bako case, there hasn't been much to report lately just because these early court dates are usually short preliminary hearings. I will check into it this week, though, and provide whatever update is available.

Korinna - thank you for your response - can you start a blog regarding her case since so many have concern. I think many of us that are community members, especially the ones that kids attended Frederick during her term, that contributed hard earn money to various events, products, etc., really want to know where the money is and want it returned to the Frederick students. I would think the confusion lies with Bako and why she is not justifying or showing the money and proof, at her court dates. Understanding court systems have processes to go through, but she had plenty of time to prove her case before she even got arrested and booked. If she can show the proof it was not her, yes, she should file for reparations, but if she comes out guilty, she needs to return the money and apologize to the parents, PTO and staff of Frederick, do time, and for sure move out of our town and stop polluting it.

My suggestion would be to write your concerns to the d46 board and Ellen. If you write it into a question, they have to respond to it.