Update, 3:15 p.m., Thurs. Jan. 17
From D46 Board President Ray Millingon:
"The parties met today and discussed possible changes to their positions but were unable to reach agreement. The Federal Mediator adjourned today’s session. Both sides will be getting back together on Sunday evening."
There will be no school Friday.
Update, 10:55 p.m., Wed. Jan. 16
The district posted the following statement on its Website in response to statements made by the union to the media following Tuesday's negotiating session:
As the teachers continue to engage in their strike, the D46 Board of Education would like to clarify some misinformation. In several interviews, the Union has stated that it already agreed to a salary freeze in the first year of the contract. In one report, the Union even stated that there was a tentative agreement on a first year freeze. This is not the case. There has never been a tentative agreement on a first year freeze. The teachers' salary proposal for the first year of the contract included a lane change at the cost of $133,000. This proposal also called for $1,080,000 of new costs in the second year of the contract. The Union has made it clear in the proposals it made public, that it will not accept a proposed soft salary freeze in the first year of the contract without adding significant costs to the second year.
Last night, the mediator presented a proposal that he believed represented a "middle ground" between the parties' positions. The Board appreciates those efforts, but it is ultimately the Board, and not the mediator, who must find the money to pay the increased costs of any agreement. During a time when the Board is facing serious multi-year budget deficits and declining revenue, this is not an easy task. When projecting budget deficits in excess of $2 million, adding more money to that deficit is not an obvious solution.
There is a misconception regarding the District's finances and its "reserve" funds. The Board's budget projects and end- of-fiscal-year balance in most operating funds, which when totaled is approximately $16,000,000. Sometimes these end- of-year balances are collectively referred to as a "reserve fund."
However, these balances are not akin to a savings account or "a rainy day fund." Rather, these fund balances fluctuate throughout the course of the fiscal year as revenue is received and expenses are paid. The end-of-fiscal-year fund balance is a snap-shot taken on June 30 of each year, after the receipt of the first installment of taxes. For example, over the course of the year, as revenue is received and expenses are paid, the Educational Fund experiences a low-point balance of only $1.9 million (equivalent to only 28 days of expenses). Every year of budget deficit will further erode the end-of-year fund balance and also further reduce the low-point of the fund and may cause the district to take out tax anticipated warrants, an additional cost to the district.
The Board understands that the teachers had hoped for higher salary increases. The Board has never contended that the teachers do not deserve a salary increase. Rather, the Board has stressed that any salary expectations of the teachers must be something the Board has the ability to finance. In the current economic situation, that ability is limited. The Board has tried to be mindful of the needs of its students, teachers, residents and taxpayers throughout this process. The Board looks forward to the next meeting with the Union in an effort to reach an agreement.
Update, 12:10 p.m. Wed. Jan. 16
District 46 Board President Ray Millington provided Patch the following statement in response to our request for comment on Tuesday's session:
The Grayslake CCSD 46 School Board met for an extended period of time on January 15 and several alternatives were discussed between the School Board and the teacher union. Unfortunately we could not reach agreement and the teachers gave notice that they will go on strike.
Original post
District 46 teachers, who went on strike Wednesday, agreed to accept a mediator's proposal at Tuesday's eleventh hour contract negotiation session, said Jim Pergander, business agent for Lake County Federation of Teachers Local 504.
"The union agreed to the mediator's proposal. The (school) board said no in the end."
Tuesday's session between the District 46 Board of Education and teachers' union last nearly eight hours. Anxious parents and community members waited until almost midnight for word on whether the strike would happen.
Parents received an automated phone call from the district, which also posted an update on its Website.
Pergander said both sides agreed not to divulge details of the mediator's proposal, but it was a two-year proposal that was "pretty middle of the road" and similar to the last proposal made on Nov. 28.
At that session, the school board agreed to a two-year teacher contract, but held firm on instituting a salary freeze with no step or lane changes. The board offered to give all certified staff who have not submitted a notice to retire a $1,000 stipend in year two, which would cost the district about $300,000.
The union, which had initially proposed a 3 percent salary increase for both contract years, agreed to continue working at their current 2011-12 salary schedule for next school year, but they asked for lane change compensation paid in February 2013, which would cost $200,000, and two salary steps scheduled for Sept. 2013 and March 2014, which would cost $750,000, according to the district.
The mediator's proposal on Tuesday was similar to the Nov. 28 proposal but called for a give and take from each side, said Pergander.
"The mediator told both sides there would be some hurt. He did the Solomon thing and cut it down the middle."
Pergander said the union was agreeable to the new proposal, which still called for teachers to continue working at their current salaries for the next school year, but with the second year's salary step compensation being modified from the Nov. 28 proposal.
"It was an amount less than what we were requesting, but more than the district was offering."
Pergander said the union thought the proposal was acceptable.
"We said let's go with it and keep school in session. We said we'll take it," but the board would not agree to it.
Patch has reached out to District 46 Board President Ray Millington for comment.
Pergander said the mediator told both sides he would get in touch with them before the weekend to schedule another negotiating session.
Check back with Patch for the latest strike updates.
D46: 'Fiscal Reality' Won't Allow for Teacher Raises
POLL: D46 Board and Union to Negotiate Again Sunday. What will be the Outcome?
Gallery: From the District 46 Picket Lines
District 46 Residents Turn Out for Citizens' Strike Forum
UPDATED: No Agreement Reached in D46 to Avoid Strike
Brad Faxton
9:50 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
One side moved, the other dig its childish heals in the sand. BOE - you.... oh, nevermind.
Angela Sykora
9:55 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Editor's Note: I have reached out to the district for comment on Tuesday's session and am ready and willing to hear their side and post their statements as an update to this story!
kaetra
12:53 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Thank you for covering this!
Mia
9:56 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
This was brought to my attention by my husband, that Grayslake Teachers Pay Scales is considerably lower than surrounding districts, including Round Lake Area Schools. Therefore, we need to be cautious that we don't lose a lot of good teachers and in return get what we pay for, the teachers that other districts don't want (and there is a reason why other districts don't want them). I am just looking at this merely from a business and performance point of view. We won't see the impact from this strike and negotiations right away, but it will definitely have an impact on real estate and re-sale values. It is too bad, this used to be a good community :( I am so sad!!!
Deadcatbounce
2:17 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Jeez, these teachers aren't going anywhere. Schools only hire teachers with only a year or two experience so they have the money to pay the more senior level teachers.
Loren Garcia
5:56 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
If the pay scales are considerably lower than surrounding districts, than the law of supply and demand will come to bear and teachers will go elsewhere. It is my assertion that the qualiy of the school district infrastructure and local demographics is a factor that keeps the teachers here. Those positives will come at a cost for the labor force.
Loren Garcia
6:08 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
If the pay scales are considerably lower than surrounding districts, than the law of supply and demand will come to bear and teachers will go elsewhere. It is my assertion that the qualiy of the school district infrastructure and local demographics is a factor that keeps the teachers here. Those positives will come at a cost for the labor force.
Jose Cuervo
6:26 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The average salary in Grayslake is $57k. Grayslake salaries are right in the middle of the average in the county. Not the lowest, not the highest. Fact. Look it up.
For every opening in a district there are 100 applications. If someone wants to leave because they feel they aren't appreciated, the district will have a hundred others waiting to take their place. I don't want to hear nonsense about quality because those teachers who are unemployed were most likely cut for budgetary reasons.
SIU has classrooms of people graduating with degrees in teacher all the time. Most of them can't find jobs. Many are lucky to find jobs as subs in districts.
I'd like to see good people stay but if they don't, there will be good people lining up to take their place.
Nancy Murphy
10:50 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Why not just take a look at their salaries: http://tinyurl.com/at45tas
These are hardly slave wages for a 9 month gig. And they get 85% of their top 3 yrs. salaries plus free medical care in their pension plan. Only 15% of all private sector workers have any kind of pension coverage. Just take a look at those salaries!
Terri
11:09 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Nancy
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Can you substantiate a single claim?
Mia
9:59 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Angela,
Thank you for your professionalism and hard work covering this story!!!
We need more journalists like you, keep it coming.
Mia
Angela Sykora
10:02 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thanks Mia. I will be posting more photos and a video from the picket line before the end of the day so stay tuned!
bob
10:07 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The people on here bashing the teacher's need to realize that the people in the district that are the highest paid and with the best benefits are administrators and the superintendent. They are at work and being paid today. They are also the people who have figured out the system and are collecting multiple pensions from different states etc. I wonder how many of those individuals have had a reduction in benefits or salary to help the district during tough financial times.
Mia
10:15 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Well said Bob!!!
kaetra
12:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Absolutely! It is clear to everyone that The Board is playing hardball. I'm sure Mr. Millington is not very worried about bankrupting the district when he cashes his paycheckS. Property taxes reflect what the budget needs, and they only move in one direction - UP, regardless of property values. I would very much like to see the enrollment numbers and how much they've dropped. In my child's school, Woodview, they went from having 3 classrooms to 4 classrooms for certain grades because there were so many more students these last couple years. The Board is very good at manipulating numbers, they must have learned some business techniques from AGI.
Mia
10:21 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I am most worried about the good teachers that we are going to lose as a result of this strike. This is a great district, my kids go to Prairieview and it has been a great experience. I have never seen a school like that before, but I am afraid some great teachers are going to go elsewhere and we are going to get the leftovers from elsewhere. I only have one more year there, but I can't help it but to be concern. A fair agreement needs to be reached soon, when are they meeting next?
Charles Johnson
10:22 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I am surprised that the Federal Mediator invented his own proposal. They usually do not create their own solutions and take it to both parties. The simple reason why they don't and shouldn't is because of what exactly we see in this article. That one party uses the rejection of the mediator's suggestion as a political weapon against the other side. This is very bad from a negotiation process standpoint. I wouldn't be surprised to see the mediator removed from this case because of this.
Terri
10:44 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
While I Agee with you in substance, I'm unclear on fact.
http://www.fmcs.gov/assets/files/public%20affairs/fmcs%20brochures/146-collective_bargain.pdf
I'm not certain there was any "creation" on the part of the mediator, and it's this immature community & BOE that makes it a problem.
Charles Johnson
10:53 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
According to the article the union representative Jim Pergander said: "The union agreed to the mediator's proposal." Your link to the fmcs.gov site confirms my experience, that the mediator can make "recommendations". This is a BIG problem. The union is using the mediator as weapon. This is precisely why mediators are NOT supposed create their own proposals. While its very late in the game, I wouldn't be surprised to see the mediator be replaced because of this.
Terri
12:37 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
If it were a "proposal" we would have all the details..not just,perhaps, a semantically flawed statement. I don't know what your experience is, but mine is extensive. This is what we refer to as a "supposal". They are generally floated; not written.
BNH
10:22 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
It is so disheartening to hear that the union did what they needed to do and the BOE still refused to settle. Those on the BOE are at their jobs today, getting paid and staying warm. Just continued proof to me that the BOE has very little value for the teachers, the students, and the district as a whole.
j
10:30 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Cut administration by 25% (cost), give the union what they want, and ask the taxpayers for no money above what is already paid annually. If there is a surplus, the funds should be returned to the taxpayers. If there is a shortage, teachers can either take cuts in pay/benefits or teachers with the least seniority can be laid off.
Mia
10:33 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I heard from a neighbor that the BOE plan to let the strike go on for as long as they could (the plan was 2 weeks). I am not sure what the truth of it is, but the person that told me explained that 2 weeks of payroll for CCSD46 equal to $660,000 and will help the deficit tremendously and that was the BOE plan. However, I thought the time students were out needed to me made up, therefore, there are no savings. Any truth to this? How many days before someone higher up intervene?
Terri
10:37 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You are correct. Only the administration nets a win.
WorriedParent
10:41 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I heard the opposite, that teachers plan to strike for at least 2 weeks because the pay they lose now can be made up a the end of the year. They are banking on the fact that they kids have to make up the days....but not all the time do the days have to be made up.
Sully
9:38 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The teachers will strike for at least two weeks because they will be paid for working two more weeks at the end of the year? What? And we all know teachers go into teaching just to have their summers off. Doesn't working extra days at the end of the school year cut into their vacation time?
BNH
10:39 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I believe that wether or not they make up the days is a negotiable item, although I also thought that the students had to be in school for a set number of days per the state law. Good question Mia. It disgusts me to think that the Board would allow this to go on for two weeks.
Terri
10:55 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You are correct. The kids have to attend 177 qualified days to get the state funding. Teacher contracts are 190 days. Many of the 13 institute days have already been used, or will be required to meet state standards. The net savings in payroll would be minimal in a 2 week strike.
Cheryl W.
10:51 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Don't teachers get large raises in their last few years before retirement in order to increase their pensions? If this is true then shouldn't raises given now affect how large the later raises are, or vice versa? Or have I over simplified this?
Terri
10:57 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I wouldn't call them large (just say in'), but your understanding is correct.
Cheryl W.
11:04 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Oh, I thought they were large - like 10% for 3 years or at least 2 - which would be a 20% to 30% increase. If they are similar to this then 3% for say 30 years of working would already be over 90% (since the salary increases each year) then another 20 to 30% on top of that would be extreme. Whereas 3% or more a year is reasonable if there is no big hike at the end. (I replied to my original because I didn't know how to reply to your reply.)
Terri
12:50 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You replied correctly! A teacher starting a career today at $35,000, with 3% annual raises, would be making $85,000 end of career (30 yrs in your example). Do you think that outrageous? If you just use inflation, $35,000 1982 dollars would be $83,135 in 2012. So...30 years and they'd be a couple hundred bucks ahead.
http://oregonstate.edu/cla/polisci/sahr/sahr
Deadcatbounce
2:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
6% last four years
Cheryl W.
3:51 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
No, I said that 3% is reasonable. But if their end of career salary is $85,000 and they get an additional 20 to 30% added to that to increase their pensions - then that could result in a huge increase. It seems to me that the boost at pre-retirement should be reduced if reasonable raises are received regularly.
Terri
3:58 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Not exactly, but I won't argue that end of career raises need to be addressed medium term
Chris Larson
11:00 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Has anyone from the BOE performed a cost analysis as to the impact this is having on the families that need to secure daycare for their children as opposed to the cost of the proposed mediated increase?
If only half of the families in the district need to secure daycare for their children (approx 2000 students), they are costing these families an impressive aggregate total of $60k PER DAY. If the strike were to last only six days, these families would have paid for the net amount that the union agreed to in year one. If the strike were to last sixteen days these families would be able to pay for the next two years of the proposal. That is a staggering cost to the Grayslake, Hainesville and Round Lake communities - nearly a million dollars if the strike continues for a mere 16 days - and that is only the immediate cost in dollars.
The larger impact will affect local businesses as once-disposable income dries up and already-struggling businesses see an immediate decrease in patronage. Resentment, anger and divided residents along with stunting our children's educational growth account for an even greater impact that reaches far deeper and will remain far longer.
The entire cost of this increase could be absorbed simply by increasing tuition by $125 / year for each student - or about the cost of daycare for each student for only four days of this teachers strike. I strongly urge the BOE and Union to take this mediated agreement and get our children back to school.
Terri
11:07 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Actually, the parents come out even on the deal. Kids will go to school 177 days. The other days they pay day care. So what they pay today, they'll save tomorrow. Oh...and did I mention school is not day care? I was flabbergasted to see 90% of the news coverage focused on day care rather than issues.
Chris Larson
11:24 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
It's not about teachers being glorified daycare providers - they deserve a reasonable and fair contract. Teachers educate our children and provide them with the tools to be the future of our country. I have nothing but respect for teachers and the job they do - please do not take this as thinking that they perform a daycare service - that is certainly not the intent.
This comment is simply about the financial impact that the strike is having. As for parents coming out "even", that is highly unlikely. There are a number of students in the high schools that provide daycare service for their siblings over the summer that are in school right now, unable to provide that service. There are other families that have different summer work schedules to account for providing for their children's welfare over the summer. For parents who do not traditionally need daycare service because of alternative arrangements, there is most certainly an immediate and unrecoverable cost impact.
More importantly - the BOE should recognize what the costs are here both financially and to the division that occurs within the community over not taking what appears to be a fair and balanced contract arrangement. Parents and residents from both camps are upset with the other - something that takes time to heal.
Getting children back in school quickly and continuing their education in an uninterrupted fashion is the best and only way to begin to heal that divide.
Terri
12:54 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
We are in total agreement! Thank you for your level-headed analysis...
Lisa Church
9:00 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
LISA CHURCH
This was the exact message I sent to the President of BOE. He didn't really care. His only response was that they are 1.2 million in the hole. It was apparent to me that the board will not bend and therefore it is time to get a change in the BOE !! They are not working for the benefit of our children or we as parents !!
WorriedParent
11:10 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I don't think it is fair to bring daycare costs into this disagreement don't forget the kids had a 1/2 friday and Monday off parent would have had to figure that out anyway. And most teachers have children too who have to be in daycare while they strike. And if the days have to be made up in the end, then that is 1-2 weeks of daycare you didn't have to pay at the end of the year. However, that just makes it sound like you use school as a daycare facility and I don't think that is a good analysis when it comes to the reasoning behind the strike.
WorriedParent
11:11 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
and don't forget tax increases are forever...you never get that back. And if the school is broke, where will the money come from to pay for all the demands?
Terri
12:57 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Agreed on point one. I have always maintained that a fair contract could be paid for many different ways in the existing budget/funds without ever running a negative fund balance.
Lisa Church
9:08 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I understand what you are saying but, the cost of daily care for any child can ad up when a strike continues for a week or more. This is an expense that was not planned for and what about the kindergarten parents who have paid for their childrens full day education. Now they will have to forfeit another $20-30 a day that was not planned for. Some of them are struggling just to pay for the expense of full day kindergarten. For me personally it will eat out of my monthly living expenses and I will have to budget my food expense in less healthy ways. Such as mac n cheese and pasta which go farther and last longer. No one is lessening the importance of the teachers jobs. They are wonderful and that is why we are all so frustrated. We want our kids back under their direction, under their care !!!
jf
11:20 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
when will they cancel school tomorrow, if they are not meeting today they should let us know.
Angela Sykora
12:27 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
No session is expected tomorrow, though one could be scheduled before the weekend. The district's Website will have updated posts on these details first, however, so bookmark it and keep checking in.
http://www.d46.k12.il.us/
Terri
12:58 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
They just this moment did...no school tomorrow.
CP
11:39 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
People who don't have daycare expenses should not comment on the topic.
GoBlue
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thank you so much for your very useful comment. We are all far better off now that you have clarified this for us. *This is sarcasm in case you cannot read between the lines.*
CP
12:21 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You are welcome. It appears you need to be brought back down to reality.
GoBlue
12:38 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I am thinking your reality is more like an alternate reality that only exists in your mind.
CP
12:49 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Yes, that must be it. "This is sarcasm in case you cannot read between the lines."
Black Betty
12:52 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
LOUDDDDD NOISES! Today is opposite day and I know you are but what am I.
GoBlue
12:56 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I see what you did there. Very nice, but seriously who are you to tell anyone what they can and cannot talk about. If you live in the CCSD 46 footprint and pay taxes, you can damn well discuss whatever you like regarding the topic of the strike, which happens to include daycare costs for some.
Terri
1:00 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
People who do not work, pay taxes or rent should also be banned.
Brad Faxton
2:46 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
People who sneeze should be banned and kicked in the shins.
Sorry CP, your comment is worthless. I want my click back.
Fifteen Year Grayslake Resident
11:46 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Using figures from the ISBE site listed in comments from yesterday’s article:
http://www.isbe.net/research/htmls/salary_report.htm
I calculated average and median salaries for Grayslake D46 and five nearby districts. To do that I had to made a few adjustments to the data: I removed administrators, and converted salaries for people who have other than full time jobs to their full time equivalent (for example I multiplied the base salary for a 0.5 FTE job by 2.) I also removed a total of three records with zero or nearly zero compensation so they wouldn't skew the results. Then I added the other compensation categories to the base salary – annuities (didn’t see anything but zeroes in that column), retirement enhancements, and other benefits – to get total compensation. All calculations were for the 2012 year as reported to ISBE. Finally, I did not adjust for the variation in sick days by district, I will just list that with the results, rounded to the nearest $1,000 – first average, then median:
Lake Villa $61,000 $58,000 15 sick days
Fremont $63,000 $58,000 15 sick days
Grayslake $65,000 $62,000 16 sick days
Woodland $74,000 $71,000 13 sick days
Round Lake $77,000 $72,000 14 sick days
Libertyville $77,000 $73,000 12 sick days
Looks like Grayslake salaries are in line, but unless other districts freeze salaries too, which there is no sign they will, our district will fall behind fairly quickly. Not good. I stand with the teachers!
Momof4
12:26 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Well said Fifteen Year Grayslake Resident.
I know the teachers in our buildng make much less and some have 2nd jobs. There is such thing as rate of inflation that affects our taxes. We voted to raise taxes to add another fire station, police building and other improvements on those buildings. We have road and other cosmetic improvements to our community including some nice lighing and brick pillared signs announcing "Village Center". Why aren't the teachers as important when they are receiving below average? I am worried that we don't value our own children enough.
Round Lake and other communities that failed to resolve their issues were forced into a manditory tax hike by the state. If you don't like $400 try 10 times that amount and good luck trying to get the state out of your town, say 8 years? If you can't afford taxes to go up fair amounts at a time, then take another look at your budget and adjust or move!!!!
Amy Moffatt
12:45 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Momof4 - You know what our district doesn't have the MONEY to be handing out these raises right now so a raise freeze the first year is what's right for our district and the teachers. Also, if the teachers aren't happy here they should look elsewhere for employment and allow new teachers to teach our kids.
Black Betty
12:48 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Amy MoFFatt,
Care to explain? I'd love to learn how you became so educated on the topic. Please do share.
Amy Moffatt
1:01 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Black Betty I've lived in Grayslake now for 20 years and during that time I've gotten to know our School Board and even those administrators so don't you dare go there with me about money and other things please.
Terri
1:02 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Agreed! And you were generous with your modifications! I would have just used FTE's
Terri
1:07 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The district does have the money for a fair contract. The teachers agreed to a '11/'12 step freeze several offers ago. If the BOE could concentrate on a fair resolution to lanes and a medium term phase down on end-of-career raises, I bet they could get an even longer step freeze.
Black Betty
1:10 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Amy Moffatt,
That is AMAZING! I'm sure you must have an award that you prominently display in your house for that. Kudos!
Soo... you know the board... and administrators... what about the guy at the tasty freeze?
(See where I am going with the relevancy of your statement?)
But please tell me more of your insight based on your privileged relationships.
BB
D46 Teacher
1:17 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thank you for your support! I have 2 jobs and considering taking a 3rd, many of my colleagues are doing the same. Very few don't have a 2nd job!
Tony
1:25 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Keep your filthy hands out of my pockets...
Plainfield
11:41 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Reading the comments from the BOE it's clear that the district can't afford any increase in salary at this time. Sure teachers should get a raise every year - but unlike comments about teachers getting 2nd and 3rd jobs, the district can't 'create' additional revenue. Oh, they could ask for a property tax increase - I'm sure the voters would love to support that. I fail to see how this is any different than a corporation saying - thanks for your hard work this year, but we can't afford to give you an increase right now. Unions worked with employers like Ford, GM and others to lower salaries and save the companies - this is no different. If teachers are professional they will understand the district can't offer any more and go back to work. But you see the union can't allow that to happen. Other school districts might try to do the same and harm the 'value' of the union.
25 Year Grayslake Resident
12:37 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Maybe it's just me, but I want my tax dollars to go toward an exemplary primary education program in Grayslake, and that includes teachers' salaries and benefits. Not looking forward to Dist. 46 becoming some kind of backward, podunk school district. Keep it classy, BOE!
Terri
1:07 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Cheers!
D46 Teacher
1:14 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thank you for your support!
Johny
1:04 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Excuse me, but is being almost the highest property taxed district in the country not enough, or are we shooting for number one? Momof4, I'm not sure of this but I'd bet you're not exactly a Grayslake "native". Taxing retired, retiring lifelong or just longtime residents out of town is good with you? It's time to reinvent the way we do this, not time to keep piling it on. And no, I don't expect to pay for increasing teacher's salaries while those paying those salaries have watched theirs stagnate or drop. I do know one thing. If the talk is about increasing our tax rate we will see a whole bunch of people who would never have considered it before, become tea party types.
Terri
1:16 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You live in a bedroom community. Where else did you think the money to run schools would come from if not property taxes? I have also illustrated that crying poor just doesn't cut. I was chastised for that. Grayslake residents have seen their individual incomes increase by nearly 30% since 2006, on average. If someone bought more house than they could afford, and did not make a personal contingency fund, I can't see how that's the teachers fault. I've lost 3 jobs in 40+ years. Each in a recession. Got a new one at better pay every time. Never missed a payment and voted for every referendum. 2 of those jobs were 20 year careers where I tripled my salary in 6 figures. Don't even have a college education.
Johny
2:28 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Actually 20+ years ago it was just a small town. Now that it's become a "bedroom community" we should still consider the people who have been here all along. Many of whom were raised here, raised their families here and have always called Grayslake home. I don't think anybody, I certainly didn't, say anything about something being the teacher's fault. What I did say is we need to consider those who have been at home in Grayslake long before most of us thought of it and I also said it's time we reinvent, or rethink how we do this. And that applies to everything we do publicly anymore. I think anybody who is observant realizes there has been a rather drastic change in what we are as a whole economically. Regardless Terri, of your personal abilities or achievement.
Terri
3:39 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
It's always been a bedroom community...at least the last 30 years
Deadcatbounce
4:41 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Wow, The income of Grayslake residents has increased on average nearly 30% since 2006! I would like to know where you saw that statistic. That's like a 5% raise every year, so why so many foreclosures? Please Terri show us the link for this 30% increase
Grayslake Resident
1:44 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
30% increase in 6 years, huh? LOL! Yeah, right. I've lived in Grayslake for nearly 8 years, have only received a total of 18% increase during that time, and am smart enough to know I'm one of the fortunate ones.
Fifteen Year Grayslake Resident
1:04 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Just received a robocall cancelling school for tomorrow.
Amy Moffatt
1:10 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I've heard that this strike could go for about 2 weeks and if it does our kids get to suffer in the long run.
D46 Teacher
1:11 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thank you to those who support us, D46 teachers. For those who don't I am sorry you feel this way. Today, as I was at the picket line I felt the community support and the well wishes coming our way. This is a great community and today I witness the kindness of complete strangers coming with coffee, and donuts just because they know how hard we work. Therefore, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Terri
1:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
You're more than welcome!
D46 Teacher
1:26 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Thank you!
Angela Sykora
1:35 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Per the district: The strike continues. There will be no school tomorrow Thursday Jan. 17.
Tony
2:00 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Keep in mind; this is still a 4-3 school board.
It couldn’t be more obvious at least one of the “comfortable crew” has changed sides, or at least temporarily to get through the next election cycle.
I find it interesting how most of those who typically support the likes of Ray Millington, Keith Surroz, Karen Weinert and the unethical Sue Fecklam aka; “The Comfortable Crew” are now vilifying the entire board.
I guess you can’t blame this on Kip Evans, Shannon Smigielski and Michael Carbone alone.
GoBlue
2:13 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Apparently you though this comment was so good you had to put it in two different threads. I could care less about the Kip, Shannon and Michael. I absolutely do not agree with their politics, but this issue is greater than petty disagreements. We need to get the contract done and get the kids back in school. The only way that will happen is both sides compromising: union and BOE period. If the BOE will not compromise at all than this strike will continue on for a lot longer than any of us would like.
Tony
2:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Do you support Millington, Surroz, Weinert and Gift Card Fecklam through this process?
GoBlue
2:37 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I am really not a fan of any of the board members. I think Kip, Shannon and Michael came into the BOW with an agenda and are determined to be disruptive to the point of causing paralysis for BOE decision making. That does not exclude the other 4 from making mistakes. Again I am not a fan of any of the BOE nor do I know any of them. All I care about at this point is getting a new contract that is an acceptable compromise for both the union and BOE and getting the kids back in school.
Tony
3:20 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Speaking of the other 4, what do you consider a mistake?
Ralf Landmesser
3:20 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I am very happy to see that the BOE's politics are coming to light in this forum. My D46 children and I support the teachers. I'm saddened that many of the hard-liners obviously no longer have children in the district and are only interested in their own wallets.
Brad Faxton
3:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Coming to light? They have always been a huge black eye.
Tony
3:24 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
are you suggesting the union and the teachers are not interested in their own wallets?
This is after all what this entire mess is about.
Phu Cough
3:25 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
A black eye combined with AIDS.
Shanna Piggott, science teacher
3:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
As a parent, teacher, and community member, I fully support our teachers and their efforts to educate our children. We moved to this community knowing that we would have higher taxes but we were willing to take the hit to ensure that our children would receive a quality education. I have been very pleased with the level of education that my kids have received up to this point but I am very worried that we are going to start losing the high quality teachers that we need to prepare our students. Personally, I am willing to curtail my Starbuck's runs and spend a little less in other areas to pay the teachers appropriately. I want them to be able to focus on doing their job effectively, passionately and not be worried about what second job they need to pick up to make ends meet. Our children need to come first RIGHT NOW or we are going to have even more problems later. If we want to help our children be competitive when they leave these schools then we need to send that message right now. Don't fail our children, don't fail our future!
Diane
1:37 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
MS Piggott, you are my daughters science teacher and she thinks your a GREAT teacher! If YOU endorse D46 teachers, I consider that a GREAT endorsement!
Thank you Teachers for all you do-lets get em paid!
Cheryl W.
1:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I think the Grayslake teachers could really prove how excellent their abilities are if they could teach their students (and the parents) that "your" is a possessive pronoun not a pronoun / verb contraction.
Lauri Wade-Higdon
3:32 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
With the teachers on strike, why are the 166 assistants required to be at work in empty schools? No money for teachers?
Terri
3:41 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
They have there own contract to worry about. Doin what they're told.
Phu Cough
3:45 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
They didn't get their paper work in time to strike with the teachers.
Ralf Landmesser
3:34 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Tony, I said "only" interested in their wallets. We're all interested in our own money, but some of us can look beyond that myopic view.
bob
3:35 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The Board Members of district 46 (if one votes 1 way on an issue another will vote the opposite way)do not get along and they are trying to make a political statement with this. This is not going to be a short strike and we as Grayslake residents need to do a better job of knowing who is being elected and for what reasons. The people making the comments about how easy it is to be a teacher and how over paid they are, maybe you should go back to school and get a teaching job, then you would have to deal with the parents just like yourselves. I have kids in district 46 and at the high school. So there are some in D46 who are overpaid and some underpaid. We just need to be on par with the districts around us so our kids get a good education. Better teachers will make our kids better off in life. I drop my son off at school in the morning and I don't see a parking lot filled with BMW's and Mercedes. I work in sales and the better sales people make more more money, our owner is not generous but he is fair and our pay is on par with other places. I am sure the teachers just want what is on par with other districts. The real question is how many board members have kids in district 46? How many actually live in Grayslake? How did they get elected in the first place and what is there objective, our kids education? Shame on us for not knowing until now and letting our kids suffer for it!
Terri
3:44 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Good stuff...except...who are any of us to say someone is overpaid...
Tony
3:49 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Good point, but who is responsible for suggesting every household in the community is currently in a financial position to support a tax increase?
Lisa Church
9:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I completely agree on this. I feel responsible for the out come of this situation with the BOE. My kids are in my home waiting for any school day to start and I don't know why. How did I get so sheltered in thinking that someone else would make sure my kids would not only be educated but have a good education as well. We need to get our kids back in school and I need to be active in what is going on. First priority: Go to the board meetings and listen !! then VOTE!!
Angela Sykora
3:40 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
A Strike Mediation Session is Scheduled for 10 a.m. Thursday. School Remains Cancelled for the Day.
Lennie Jarratt
4:09 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Reminder - 7pm at State Bank of the Lakes, 50 Commerce Dr, Grayslake.
Townhall meeting to discuss the strike. Hosted by For Our Children's Future.
Tony
4:12 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I wonder if PapaJohns is going to send any complimentary pizza's?
Ralf Landmesser
4:28 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Well said Bob. That's why I rarely vote for incumbents. Typically, entrenched politicians tend to advance their own agenda, not the community's.
Johnson H.
5:22 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I just have to say I support our teachers 100%. When I look at my tax bill I see that I pay about $10.00 a day for a good education for my kids. I have only had one issue with a teacher in 8 years of sending our kids to D46. The teachers deserve a raise, all reports say the teachers are willing to compromise, and the board will not budge. That is a shame. To those that say teachers get paid enough, I ask are you willing to accept a proposal from your employer that says you can only max out at x amount. Once you reach x amount you will no longer get a raise no matter how long you work for us? I bet not.
Concerned Parent
5:22 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Correct me is I am wrong. I attended a School Board meeting in November at Woodview and there a was a disagreement between board members (what else is new) over what to do with $850,000 dollars that was in a fund to buy materials for students Like books and what not. But $500,000 from a grant was used to purchase the needed materials for District use, the board was in disagreement what to do with the money. Some wanted to purchase materials for child and some wanted to put it toward the deficit. I remember a board member arguing the money should go for materials even though she was told that the materials could be obsolete with in a year with the new Common Core Standards. Could someone let me know if I am correct.
Johny
6:50 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Let's keep this in mind. Lake County Illinois has the highest property tax rate in the midwest. There are only a few counties in the nation with higher property rates and they would be located on the coasts. And of course Avon Township has had the honor of being the township with the highest rate in Lake County until recently falling to second place behind Lake Villa I believe. I don't think we need to be pushing to regain that distinction we've lost.
Ferne
7:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Extraordinary students deserve extraordinary teachers. Extraordinary teachers deserve to be paid well. Just a few weeks ago, teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary School gave up their lives to protect their students. Teachers in every district in the US, work hard to educate the children in their classrooms, regardless of who they are or where they come from. The teachers in District 46 are no different. They teach because they love the experience of watching a child grab a concept and run with the idea. They don't really expect to get rich doing the job, but they do deserve to make enough to live on and raise their families in reasonable comfort. Good teachers never stop learning. They use their "free time" to go to school to be better at their jobs. The only people that suffer in a teachers' work stoppage are the children. There are only so many days to be in school. Let's not waste the children's chance to learn. Remember, someday these children will be running our world. I hope they are educated enough to do a creditable job.
jeff goldberg
8:37 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
the teachers have had raises ove the past 6 years they have become greedy
it needs to be about our KIDS that want to learn thank you plow king
j
8:52 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
I had maybe 10 good teachers and 1 or 2 extraordinary teachers during my formal education, including my time as an undergrad and graduate student. Most teachers are average. And since almost anyone can become a teacher our public education system looks like a jobs program. More money is not the answer. Destruction of the teachers unions is the answer.
Deadcatbounce
9:28 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The teaching profession will go through a slow decline as online education becomes more popular. I assume the teachers union will fight tooth and nail against online education.
j
9:40 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Well, maybe I'm just a little out of my league, here. Oh, there is just one more thing. Higher education doesn't guarantee a quality education.
Grayslake Resident
1:03 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This is one of the more intelligent posts I've read on this forum today. You made a very precise statement. I've read posts from someone who claims they made a six-figure salary with no college education (and it shows in every post she makes). I've also read posts from many who don't know all of the facts. There are definitely teachers (and at least one principal) in this district who shouldn't even be teaching children. There are other teachers who are superior. Regardless, annual increases are an obsolete notion in today's society. Teachers should not be immune to this fact any more than the rest of us.
Sully
9:55 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
So there you go- Deadcat is all for increasing the unemployment rate. Hey, Dead- teachers are people too. They have families to help provide for, bills to pay, even taxes to pay (I know. Hard to believe). They put money into the economy. Why do you want them to not be able to?
Katie Osmon
2:14 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
My sons second grade teacher, Mrs. K. Peterson at Prairie View was super excited when she was able to put in for a contest for her whole class to get their own compact disc players. She was ecstatic when she found out her class had won. I never had a teacher do stuff like that. That was pretty awesome of her to think of a way to not spend money to get something for the class. His 3rd grade teacher, Mrs. Jansen, has done so much for him and his class as well. I feel bad for the teachers. Everyone is picking on them. Also, don't students turn in the Campbell's soup labels and Boxtops for Education? My kid is always bugging me to buy stuff with them so he can bring them to school. Every month he has a big bag of them that he takes to school. I wish the teachers the best of luck and I hope they get what they want, after all, they are teaching our children.
BMF
8:04 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I don't support greedy thieves. D46 teacher should see how green the grass is on the other side. From the sounds of it 23 will have that opportunity. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. I do not support entitlement groups and Unions which are basically legal gangs.
j
8:11 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Well said. If the pay isn't to your liking, don't let the door smack you on the tuchus. There are plenty of unemployed teachers waiting to take your jobs.
WorriedParent
8:28 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Ron, I didn't see you name on the ballot to run for the board. If you don't like the current board do something about it instead of insulting and personally attacking the people who are doing a volunteer position. I am not saying anyone is perfect, but it seems like the board is actually working together for a change.
j
11:34 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I am sure the kids would receive a quality education with a whole new group of teachers willing to be compensated within the district's budget.
Cheryl W.
11:48 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Quality education? They boast that 87% of their students perform at or above the district "average" but when I questioned getting additional help for my daughter who was performing in the 23 percentile- their response - oh, we still consider that within the normal range and not requiring additional help. Their percentages are skewed and I question the "quality" referred to by RonVerdi.
j
2:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Finding 300+ people willing to change the light bulb on top of the KVLY-TV mast poses a challenge. Finding 300+ out of work teachers willing to replace the group we have now does not.
Cheryl W.
7:35 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
@RonVerdi - oh how fast you assumed. We are a low tech house dear, not a single video game, not even a flat screen television. Spent many hours with my child since birth, hooked on phonics, Kumon, the works. Just hoped to get additional help from the professionals since she struggles. Just couldn't find any expertise in the current school system.
Donny
8:27 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Fire them all and then replace them with qualified people that will appreciate the current well paid teaching position.
Sully
6:24 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
How long do you think this new set of teachers will stand for no say in their work conditions? It won't take too long for them to learn teaching isn't as easy as you seem to think it is and they will want better compensation and more say in their conditions. It's about what is the right thing to do. If you surrender your rights now, you're not terribly likely to get them back. Are you willing to work under any conditions your boss sets with absolutely no recourse? Fired on a whim? Working extra hours without compensation for them? You probably will say yes, but I don't really think you would in real life.
atomgirl
9:03 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I would like to personally thank District 46. I discovered one thing you can add to your curriculum. Respect! Why? I came home yesterday to find my property vandalized by someone's little angel. Considering I do not have kids and I paid out over 6K in property taxes I think you can considering adding respect. I will certainly make a point to vote your union out of business in April. Have a nice day!
bob
10:16 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
It's not the Teacher's fault kids vandalized your property, that's the parents fault of the kids who did it. Imagine what it is like to have to teach those kids everyday! I don't think it is the teachers responsibility to raise people's kids for them, those kids probably don't have any respect for the teachers, it is a parents responsibility to teach kids to respect others!
Concerned Parent
11:54 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
So would you blame the teachers and District 46 if you property was vandalized on a Saturday Night.
Sully
6:25 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Wow atomgirl, Summer must really be a dangerous time for you!
BMF
9:20 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This strike just adds the reason why the people that want to get out of here can't . Lets all just hope the Union doesn't win the battle and further jeopardize the stability of the Grayslake communities and the people are struggling to pay for the Unions. 10k in property tax a for house that will sell for under $200,000. People aren't moving here for great teachers. They aren't moving here because the schools over paid. This area is a joke. Obviously the people defending the unions actions on here are teachers, union members, or live in a bubble.
I am going to ask my boss today for more money even though we have cut half of our staff and have people everyday asking for employment. I am happy with what I have and appreciate the fact that I'm not in the unemployment line. I work harder because I'm thankful for what I have. Let restructure the schools and get people without the entitlement attitude and find people that TRULY love what they do.
kaetra
12:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Well-performing schools are EXACTLY why we moved from Chicago to Grayslake, and it was Reason Number One. We could get better houses cheaper in other communities, but they didn't have good schools. If you have kids and you care about their education, good schools are always very high on the list when you figure out what community you want to call home.
Lennie Jarratt
10:07 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
My full presentation can now be viewed at http://forourchildrensfuture.com/. If anyone has any questions please contact me. I will also be happy to come to any meeting you set up to discuss this in detail. Video of the meeting will be up later toady.
A special thank you to the teachers and spouses of teachers who attended. Having a dialogue is the way to find a solution based in facts, truth and mutual respect.
Concerned Parent
12:01 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I just looked at your presentation. It had some good information. However, it did not mention that the State has borrowed from the Teacher Pension System and has failed to put the money back in. This is part of the reason that the Pension System is in crisis.
Lennie Jarratt
12:59 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
CP, we discussed some of the pension issues instead of them being on the charts. There was only so much time and room for data. Pensions are a major issue, but it would be a presentation in and of itself. If you'd like to set up a meeting I'd be happy to go more in depth on Pensions.
Deadcatbounce
1:17 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Well concerned parent pension enhancements and salary spiking are also part of the reason the pension system is in crisis. If there was no money to pay for the enhancements, why did the teachers union not complain years ago. I didn't hear much squacking when your pension COLA increased in the 70s, 80s and 90s from 1% not compounded to 3% compounded. It was unaffordable from the beginning, so why didn't you union folks say something:( the following is from the presentation.
9.If the pension rules in effect in 1970 when the “Pension Guarantee” was added to the stateconstitution were still in effect there would be no unfunded pension liability
10.Teachers’ unions have given IL politicians of both parties more than $50 million in contributionssince 1995
Concerned Parent
4:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Lennie and DCB, If you are going to present facts you should present them all. Most people don't realize everything that has caused the pension crisis. They read what you present and think that is all that has caused the problems.
Lennie Jarratt
4:27 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
As stated earlier, the video of the townhall discusses the issue in more depth.
kaetra
12:41 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
As a Grayslake District 46 parent, I stand with the Teachers on this one. The offers that have been made by the Teachers have been fair, reasonable and well within the the budget's means. The BOE is out of order. As a parent helper for the last 4 years, I have seen first hand the dedication and skill of our Grayslake teachers - they are amazing. Support the Teachers!
Deadcatbounce
1:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
You are obviously not a financial person Kaetra
atomgirl
1:28 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Hey ConcernedParent-what are your kids doing out late on a Saturday night? So it becomes the parents responsibility on the weekends? If you are a responsible parent shouldn't they be at home doing homework or playing board games or supervised at some extracurricular school event or are they asking for money to support those activites too? Then I guess then the blame lies with poor parenting? Growing up this kind of behavior had consequences and there would be apologies and restitiution, but today it is politically incorrect to discipline children or instill responsibility and respect. So sorry I know there are parents who are too busy trying to pay GL's taxes to get involved with their children's upbringing.
Grayslake Resident
1:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
???
bob
2:56 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Your post makes no sense atomgirl. If someone vandalized your property call the Grayslake Police, it has nothing to do with the Teachers strike.
Concerned Parent
5:43 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Who said my kids are out late at night?? not me and who said vandalism has to happen late at night? Schools can institute program upon program relating to respect but it ultimately falls on the parents.
Grayslake Resident
1:50 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
As much respect as I have for many of the teachers in our district (and I consider many of them as friends) I cannot justify raising property taxes to provide another 2 years' worth of pay increases to any group of employees just because they've always received increases each year. The economy has changed, probably forever. The teachers need to understand this. I side with those that think the teachers who truly care about the children should return to the classroom. The teachers who care about money should leave to seek opportunities in a district where my children do not attend school.
BMF
2:08 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Entitlement raises at any cost to the community. Even if the means holding our children education hostage. Everyone is replaceable even our extraordinary teachers. Shame on them for using our children. I just hope this attitude of entitlement doesn't spill over to our children. Teaching is a public service job it doesn't demand private sector wages and better than most pension and benefits. The private sector will be working until they drop in Grayslake to pay for the teacher to retire in 30 and get a pension that isn't deserved. How much do we owe these people?
j
2:38 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Apparently teachers are worth every penny including the pennies we don't have. No one deserves anything. And the teachers certainly don't deserve to put their hands in the pockets of the town's residents for personal gain.
Tara Strain
2:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Shame on you Ron Verdi for shaming the BOE, but not running for a BOE seat...especially since you seem to think you have all the answers.
WorriedParent
3:14 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Then you cannot cast stones. Be willing to be part of the solution not the continuation of the problem. It is personal attacks and comments such as yours that turns the stomachs of most people who would have ever thought of moving to Grayslake or the fear instilled in anyone who would consider running for a board seat if they had to put up with these type of comments and personal attacks. If you want the BOE to be better either man up and run for a seat, or put ideas or solutions out there instead of the nasty comments and personal attacks.
Tara Strain
3:34 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I'm pretty sure that none of our elected politicians have skeletons. I'm also quite certian that none of our teachers have skeletons. Nobody in the teacher's union could have skeletons. I'm shoked to see that some of our BOE members have blemishes in their past...volunteer community members who aren't perfect, what a disgrace. What I am most certain of Ron, is that according to you, you're perfect...even more reason for you to run for a seat on the BOE.
catalina10
3:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I agree!!
BMF
3:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Ron is great :) Vote Ron
Angela Sykora
3:13 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
From D46 Board President Ray Millingon:
CCSD 46 Contract Negotiation Update
"The parties met today and discussed possible changes to their positions but were unable to reach agreement. The Federal Mediator adjourned today’s session. Both sides will be getting back together on Sunday evening."
There will be no school Friday.
Tara Strain
4:16 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Angela, please check out the D46 website's response to the current situation. It is very informative...and is the missing first section of what you've posted above.
Angela Sykora
4:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Hi Tara. I am not sure what you are referring to. The updated statement I posted today was sent to me as an e-mail by the board president, which is more than what is posted on the district Website. If you are referring to the district's lengthy response to the union posted on the D46 Website yesterday, this story also includes that entire statement.
JusticePrevails
3:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This is crazy. The BOE did not put a gun to any teachers head and force them to take a job. They knew their starting salary, when hired. For almost 2 decades, yearly increases have been AT or ABOVE the US average. Stop pointing fingers and have some accountability. You still have a job and job security. You have a generous, competitive salary. Should parents send the kids out into this cold with signs strapped to their neck, picketing the teachers who have failed them?
JusticePrevails
5:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Yes Ron, some parents do fail their children. SOME. Putting money before educating these children, is unacceptable. What the BOE offered is not unlivable. It does not put the teacher and their family in poverty. It can cause the families that pay the teachers salary to lose their homes but no one seems to care about them. Pay now and who cares where the money comes from. Its why this country is in the state it is. Buy now, pay later.
JJ
5:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
You are exactly right. These teachers are being greedy. Why should they be immune to the financial hardships the rest of us are facing? The bottom line is the only reason to give raises is to keep someone from leaving. They have nowhere to go and the BOE has no money to pay them. If these teachers care so much about giving our children a good education why are they picketing instead of teaching?
Justin B
11:53 am on Friday, February 1, 2013
Lot of experts on here..........?
Lennie Jarratt
8:50 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Strike Information Townhall
Where State Bank of the Lakes 50 Commerce Dr, Grayslake, IL 60030
When January 19, 2013
Time 2:00 pm–5:00 pm
Maureen Polte
8:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I have family members in this community so I was interested in what the Patch contributors had to say. Sharing my experience - as someone from a town that had to agree to a teacher contract it couldn't really afford - we had to lay off teachers and class sizes increased. Not all right way - just a few. But many more in the next planning year. Looking at my daughter's class sizes 18 months later, they are much larger. It creeps in... Eventually the bill comes due and a big item in any school budget is salary and benefits - so you gotta cut teachers. And when that happens, they have to cut the number of classrooms or middle school sections. And you child is now in vying for her teacher's attention. Or they are waiting 4 weeks to get an English paper graded because their English teacher lost their planning period because they had to take on another section. Teachers commented to me in P/T conferences that their classes were too big. It was hard not to ask "what did you think was going to happen". I understand both sides, but taking on larger salary and benefits each year is hard to absorb. It's easy to say that fund balances should be used for paying salary and benefit increases - but eventually they need to be restored - and with declining revenues the only way to restore them is to cut costs - cause increasing revenues is hard to come by. I'm not trying to be pro either "side" - just trying to share the realites of what year two will be like for your kids.
25 Year Grayslake Resident
12:33 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
But we can afford to have our downtown intersection bricks re-done....mmm
Brad Faxton
4:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
You are kidding, right? Bricks downtown have nothing what so ever to do with schools.
BMF
9:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I am not sure how many people are aware of this but full time kindergarten cost parents $3,500 extra dollars. Thats on top of a $10000 tax bill for house worth peanuts.
25 Year Grayslake Resident
1:15 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
$10,000 tax bill? Where do you live in this house worth peanuts? Not by College Trail apparently. Or your house isn't really a "house worth peanuts".
Brad Faxton
1:24 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
My bill last year was $12,860 and I'm in Grayslake.
Sully
6:30 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Maybe you are not aware, but districts that have money don't charge for all day Kindergarten.
Brad Faxton
11:09 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Is Jose Cuervo Shannon Smigielski? Hmm...If you scour past posts about the strike, there are some very curious statements said by Jose Cuervo which almost identically match the update statement which is on http://www.d46.org/
Ok, here is where it gets odd. Jose Cuervo said on 1/16 in this thread: http://grayslake.patch.com/articles/district-46-strike-is-on "The board's offer was and is fair given the deficit and future projections. Expending any more than the current offer puts people out of work and directly affects the kids as classrooms will grow. There is over $1 million in deficit. Adding $1 to that is too much."
The website text says, "...The State of Illinois, under it’s own financial pressures, underpaid the district by 1.5 million dollars last year. Furthermore our financial projections show a 2.2 million dollar deficit next year, even if we do not give raises to the staff. The Board is trying to avoid deficit spending."
Very very odd connection between those two pieces of text.
Jose Cuervo
2:10 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Get a grip! The board president is responsible for the statments geniuses. Maybe I'm really Ray Millington??!!
It's really just me, I am Jose. That is my real name. I have 1 son in the district. My wife and I both work and have lived here for 14 years. I know Shannon Smigielski. She is great at keeping people informed. I use some of her data and some i collect on my own. Those who belive anything differently should join Lennie in the line of conspiracy theories cause it just aint so! But you will continue to bark and argue and be revolting human beings, so say what you want but it wont make it any more true the tenth time than the first.
Terri
2:29 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Jose...
It hurts when people do this, doesn't it?
Jose Cuervo
5:10 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012
James Weidman aka Softball Jim, read his posts, his anger turn many off.
Jose Cuervo
4:13 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Only thing anyone will vouch for with Faxton is that SHE is the nastiest person here.
Jose Cuervo
2:30 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
What are "THESE" type Karen? Oh, I mean BRAD?
Brad Faxton
4:39 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
100% hysterical that you think I'm Karen.
Jose - yer shannon.
Karen Hord
2:12 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
No one is a winner when a community is torn apart.
RonVerdi
2:34 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Why do the numbers of teacher layoffs by the BOE and their calculations change on a daily basis? The number of layoffs tripled in 3 days... Which is it??????
Brad Faxton
4:40 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I cry shenanigans - BOE, got answers?
Jose Cuervo
2:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
@ Terri, doesn't hurt me at all but the person who is being dragged into something she has nothing to do with is. Which brings me to understanding your point and issuing an apology. Message received and lesson learned. I'm sorry.
Terri
3:31 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Exactly my point...and I'd like to join you in apologizing if I've done the same.
Kristin H.
3:10 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Shannon is a now a public person with a horrible rep. She did it to herself.
I too would love to know why the board told the teachers 14 possible layoff, but for this statement tripled that number. Who are they lying to? Why are they changing their story. If what they say in this statement is what they view as true, they are even worse at counting than I thought.
They cannot nor should they be trusted to make an accurate account of this situation.
Brad Faxton
4:41 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
4 new board members running as a slate who actually understand biz. Poor shannon - soon to be the minority.
Pete Gardner
5:42 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Kristin H. may I remind you that every one is human. It takes courage to enter into public service. You may not agree with or like the person but to watch the ugliness of what many of you here say is sad. I hope no one talks about or to you the way you have here. This goes for many of you about others and toward each other. Someone posted something that said it isn't the school board or even the strike that is making this town look bad, its these posts. So true. Treat others how you want to be treated. If someone else doing it, as many of you claim the board does, and it bothers you then why would you participate in it yourself? How does that help or make sense?
Please consider if you would want someone to talk to you or treat your spouse, your child, your mother, your father, the way you are here. I pray that you all to see the damage you are doing to each other here and that you remember kindness towards your fellow man.
Pete
Black Betty
6:57 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
It really seems like there is some underlying issue that is really truth. Not to get into conspiracy theories, but is there some kind of Lisa Bako thing going on here?
Black Betty
7:01 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Ol' man Pete,
While I appreciate your sage words of wisdom... isn't it past your bed time?
If you've been able to make sense out of anything here, I hope you've realized that you're not going to change anyone's mind or character.
Save that for Church on Sunday.
By the way... I saw a little old lady flip off the teachers from her car on Rt. 83. No one is safe here.
RonVerdi
3:23 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
COME SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE CHILDREN, PARENTS AND TEACHERS THIS SUNDAY WHEN THE BOE MEETS WITH THE UNION AT PARK SCHOOL!
Sully
6:42 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
In light of the pending school bus drivers' strike in NYC, I again wonder how Shannon feels about that. More importantly, if D46 drivers were to strike, to whom would her loyalty go?
Sully
6:44 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I don't know if the bus drivers belong to a union, so this could be a hypothetical. But, if they do, does Shannon belong? Are the bus drivers D46 employees?
Black Betty
6:46 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Rumor has it the Board is going to cancel on Sunday night. The BOE is supposed to meet with the Fed Mediator an hour early at 5pm and the negotiations would start at 6pm with the Union.
Whatever side you are on, make sure BOE doesn't care more about their 3-day weekend plans and shows up to settle this.
If the BOE doesn't show up, this strike is going another week. With 2 weeks of striking, the BOE will have made enough money up to pay the teachers but the lost school days won't be made up.
Wouldn't it be sad if this whole strike was the BOE's attempt to put money aside at the sake of our children's education? How sad would that be. I wouldn't be surprised if that was their intention the whole time.
I would expect a refund for the days of education your children don't receive.
Make sure the Board of Ed shows up on Sunday for the meeting.
BB
Look Deeper
6:48 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
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Johnson H.
7:07 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I would think if that is true, Shannon would be in some sort of violation. Another investigation....
Miriam
9:06 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Michael Carbone is already going by an assumed name. His real name is Michael Jorudd. An excerpt from the Sun Times: http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/15966816-505/lake-county-candidate-has-other-name-in-his-past-as-well-as-a-handful.html
For most of his life — including at Antioch High School, where he graduated — he was known as Michael Jorudd. Under that name, he racked up criminal arrests and charges that include driving on a suspended license, criminal trespass to property, assault and two DUI charges. In an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times, Carbone insisted that the fact he’s now using a different name doesn’t mean he’s trying to hide anything. “We went through the process, and I came up victorious every time,” he said of his bouts with the law. “I was young, a different age. People aren’t perfect. I never said I was perfect. I am not a perfect person.”
Yeah. No kidding.
Lennie Jarratt
12:19 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Reminder - Townhall Meeting to discuss the district finances, a 5 yr contract proposal and must more data.
2 pm
State Bank of the Lakes
50 Commerce Dr
Grayslake
Forethe Community
12:57 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
350 people showed up Sunday in the freezing cold to support the teachers of their district. That’s:
• 10 times the number that showed up for either of the For Our Children’s Future town halls.
• 10 times the number, on average, that shows up to BOE meetings.
• 5 times the number that have ever shown up for a BOE meeting (in recent history).
30 local business showed their support for the teachers by supplying food, providing parking, providing warming shelters, allowing access to their bathrooms, and donating cash to help teachers that might need it in a prolonged strike. Residual benefits went to local food banks through excess donations. That’s:
• 10 times the number of local business’s that spoke at any levy hearing.
• Equal to the number of attendants at any For Our Children’s Future town Hall.
• Equal to or greater than the average attendance at a BOE meeting.
Actions speak louder than words. I applaud the board for listening to the public. I only wish the silent majority had been more vocal at the levy hearings. It’s too late to do what the public really wanted.