I am going to continue talking about about empowering parents as as there are children who are denied access to a quality education just because of their zip-code.

Thank you for adding that, Crawler. If all charters were held accountable, it would help their credibility. If a parent wants to send their children to a Christian school or any religiously affiliated school, it should not be supported with tax payers' money, nor should it receive funding at the public school's expense. Feel free to teach your kids that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Just don't expect me to pay for it.

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What's your point, Lennie?

Going to "empower parents"? Could you be more specific or do we just get the same platitudes in your never-ending quest for fame and fortune in a field you know nothing about? Otherwise, all you're really doing is repeating the same old stuff. Got any new ideas, Lennie? Practical real world solutions?

Thanks, Lennie. In the article linked below, a nice piece from the Charleston Post-Courier that profiled the school when it opened in 2003, Ms. Brown said, "We use the Bob Jones curriculum, Christian school textbooks. This is a back-to-basics school and it's working." Which is fine with me. I just don't think it's something taxpayers need to support.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2482&dat=20031030&id=LZ9IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=WwsNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1238,7123554

So Sully, it sounds like you are saying that once something is stated it should never be stated again. I find that rather unusual. Should Dr. Martin Luther King stopped talking about racial discrimination after the first time? How about Harriet Tubman or Frederick Douglas talking about the discrimination of slavery? What about William Wilberforce, should he have stopped talking about slavery or attempting to get it banned? It took him nearly decades to accomplish his goal. If it takes me decades, so be it. Making sure every child has access to a quality education is a worthwhile endeavor since education is the key that unlocks the future for all children.

You surely are not comparing yourself to MLK or any of the others you mentioned, are you Mr. Jarratt? Doing so would indicate a grandiose and self-important view of yourself that is unrealistic, misrepresentative, and frankly, just another red flag of your Messiah Complex. These people had real ideas AND real solutions. They acted rather than just talk. You? Nothing but complaints and platitudes while trying to sell yourself as some great gift to society. Sorry Len. You're no savior.

I made it clear I was referring to your statement. Yet again, you go off into a personal attack on me. LOL!!!

I know you don't want others to understand this, but I have taken much action and will continue to do so, in public, and behind the scenes to get my very real and workable solutions implemented. I don't sit around here and anonymously post and attack like you do.

I do find it rather hilarious that I am supposed to know about every incident or problem about any charter and possibly private school across the country. I guess the same question can be asked of Sully. Do you know of every improper incident or failing public school across the country?

The attempts to divert from the principle at hand is the real issue. That principle, does EVERY child deserve access to a quality education?

No Lennie, I don't know about the failings of every public school, but I know they exist and I acknowledge them. Being the advocate you are for charters, one would think you would do some research on them at least a little bit. People who claim to be experts usually want to know ALL aspects of the issue, not just one side. It's called analysis, Len, and it requires some use of the brain. Your tired repetition of the same old thing indicates you have nothing to offer other than the words- no ideas, Lennie- simply meaningless words.

Again, you are making more false accusations. You know very well I have done research on all sides of the argument. You just don't want others to know that. My analysis is in writing and searchable on many websites and we have a discussion of them at every forum I am speaking at. We always welcome differing viewpoints because that is what allows us all to find common ground and common sense solutions to help ALL children.

The American Dream: Access to a quality education push poll*

*fixed

That is hardly a survey. And even to call it a poll is an insult to polls everywhere.

No pole-ish jokes, please.

You DO know because when you first posting back in 2011 we used to actually be able to have a discussion on the issues. That changed when you started making stuff up about me.

If ANYONE wants to have an open and honest debate I will gladly do so. Set up a meeting and let's talk about the issues from all sides. It is time we work together to find common ground and common sense solutions instead of continuing the vitriol and personal attacks here on the Patch.

You never answered whose money will "follow the child"?

Lennie, you've never had real data. So as not to sound like I'm attacking you personally, it would be most helpful to those concerned if you would list your sources of information. Proven research that supports your position would be fine. On a personal aside, you interpret challenging you as an attack. If my saying you are obfuscating the real facts is a personal attack, then so be it. It is the truth, however, not a false statement. Provide some real facts Lennie, and I could start giving you the benefit of the doubt. Until then, I'll continue to say you are not the expert in the field of which you say, but rather an ideologue who has nothing of substance.

Been there and done that back in 2011 in comments to you. You continue to ignore that fact and any other fact I do post.

Again, let's have a debate of the issues and facts. I'll choose someone else to be on my side of the debate, you can choose someone else to be on your side of the debate. It will be 2 on 2 with a neutral moderator.

Are you willing to step up to the plate Sully or continue to hide in the shadows and attack?

Are you willing to step up to the plate Sully or continue to hide in the shadows and attack?

Interesting choice of language. I am taking that as your answer; you will remain in the shadows instead of stepping up for a debate. If you believe you are so right, why are so so afraid to have an open and honest debate in public?

Sorry Lennie, that doesn't wash. YOU don't debate. Until you prove otherwise, you're nothing but a (poorly) trained parrot. Sorry if I'm attacking you by stating the truth.

I've been at multiple debates and forums. Haven't seen you at any. There are even some youtube videos of the events and the data I have presented in the past. I do find it hilarious that you do so many searches, yet you ignore my writings. They are hiding in plain sight for anyone to search and read.

Post as much as you want. I don't really care. Anyone who is interested in an open and honest debate will contact me as they continually do.

The others, like you, who are not interested in discussing the issue honestly will continue in the shadows with the angry postings, the searches and the personal attacks here in attempts to dissuade others from hearing about both sides of the argument.

If you are ever willing to step up to the plate instead of hiding in the shadows let me know?

Korrina, interested in hosting a debate on school choice?

I won't debate Sully or several other on here because they make stuff up. That is not having an honest debate. It's really that simple. Go back and read all the other comments by Sully on past posts and you will see.

Providing information from a source while including a link to that source is making stuff up? You, sir, are the one who is not willing to debate and you, therefore, lose. If you claim what he says is made up then provide proof in a rebuttal, otherwise you lose. That someone may have said something previously that may have been untrue but that is not part of the current topic of debate does not excuse you from the debate. If you believe it does, you lose. If the President or a Senator refused to debate an opponent simply because they may have said something in the past that was not true we would have a lot of open air time on C-SPAN around election time.
If you believe in your position then defend it. That's what Sully is doing.

I see you ignored the part about going back and reading past comments.

You debate and cspan comments are hilarious. I have offered many times to debate and several times in this very thread.

Why do you find it necessary to avoid addressing direct questions and salient points? I see you ignored the part about debating the topic at hand. I don't care if you do or don't, but you most certainly cannot claim to desire an "open and honest debate" if you are not willing to provide evidence to defend your position. Your tactics of challenging someone to a fight and then implying they are chicken if they do not accept that challenge are juvenile and transparent, not to mention the fact that it is classic bullying. There is nothing wrong with debating in a forum such as this if each side provides the evidence to support their claims. Sully has done so, you have not in this instance. Do you require your townhall audiences to "go back and read all the other comments" if they ask questions? Do you refuse to answer questions and demand that they do their own research? You have an opportunity here to defend and support your point of view and you are declining to do so. Engage in the debate.

As stated here and you continue to ignore. Sully has a track record of just making stuff up. If he/she wants to debate they can do so in person at any time. Until then, I will not engage someone who track record shows they are not interested in the truth or an honest debate.

I acknowledged the existence of past comments that Sully made that may have been untrue, but thank you for your condescending reply. Your demands for in person debates are an avoidance tactic. Your stubbornness in refusing to support your claims demonstrates that you, yourself, are unwilling or unable to have an open and honest debate. Perhaps putting your positions and supporting evidence in writing is what frightens you. Alas, we'll have to rely on the evidence Sully has provided which has refuted your position without rebuttal.

lol, good try though...

I provide lots of proof, just not to you (Sully) when your stated goal is to attack me.

So you want to continue to just lie. Well here is the proof (once again) that you are lying:

Sullivan commented on the article Gift Giving A Violation
"And I will continue to attack YOU for who you are and what you truly represent."

People are tired of the fighting and are looking for solutions. They want people to work together, which is exactly what I am doing: bringing all sides together to find common sense solutions that benefit everyone.

It is sad that you attack me because I am trying to help the poor and underprivileged who are trapped in schools that are failing them.

Let me know when you have something resembling a viable solution. And you can spare me the altruistic BS. This is and always has been about you and your self-importance.

This has never been about me. That is one of the main things you fail to grasp.

The more I just let you rant the more you prove my point anyway.

1. You have already stated in this thread that charter schools can be great and that you are not afraid of choice (the point of my last 2 articles).
2. You claim I never admit problems in some charter schools, then you quote me stating they are not the panacea and there are issues.
3. You claimed in manys thread about my intentions were with public schools, yet in the last thread proved I was not out to destroy public education and confirmed my past statements about parents who liked their current public school would not change schools.

You see, we already have a lot of common ground to start building from.

But, you never answered:
Whose money will "follow the child"?