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2012 Teacher Retirees Over $120,000

140 K-12 teachers, not including administrators, retired this year with pensions over $100,000; 15 retired with pensions over $120,000.

There has been much talk lately about pensions given the strike here in Grayslake. As I discussed in the ForOurChildrensFuture.com townhall meetings how the end of career salary hikes artificially inflate retirement salaries making them fiscally unsustainable.  In fact there are over 140 K-12 teachers, not including administrators, retired this year with pensions over $100,000. Below are those who retired with pensions over $120,000. 

Name School District Retire Date Annual Pension Subject Connell, Harold W Maine TWP HSD 207 6/8/2012       183,688 Driv Ed Monahan, Kenneth C Leyden CHSD 212 5/25/2012       156,033 Spanish Spallato, Anthony F Maine TWP HSD 207 6/8/2012       152,472 Spec Ed Nelson, Jerrold S Maine TWP HSD 207 6/8/2012       147,705 Math Brazier, Michael E Proviso TWP HSD 209 5/26/2012       143,668 Phys Ed Conway, Timothy J Highland Park TWP HSD 113 6/9/2012       131,649 Drama Myers, Carol J Highland Park TWP HSD 113 6/9/2012       130,451 Phys Ed Cratty, Cathy M Highland Park TWP HSD 113 6/9/2012       129,500 Guidance Castronova, Thomas I Maine TWP HSD 207 6/8/2012       128,046 Spec Ed Wietlispach, Michael A Palatine TWP HSD 211 6/9/2012       127,125 Science DeFalco, Joseph V Jr. Hinsdale TWP HSD 86 6/8/2012       125,947 Spec Ed Lombardi, Rick M Maine TWP HSD 207 6/8/2012       125,834 Guidance Meltzer, Eugene M Avoca SD 37 6/9/2012       121,963 English Heiteen, Jan L Downers Grove CHS 99 6/2/2012       120,491 English Franz, William E Jr. Consolidated HSD 230 5/30/2012       120,228 Driv Ed

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Terri February 03, 2013 at 01:47 AM
Johnson Another valid question is teacher contribution/employer contribution for TRS vs individual contribution/employer contribution for SS. and, what would happen in the private sector if employers addressed their obligations to SS the way the state does theirs to TRS.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 02:56 AM
"The reason Ms. Forpe receives a $99,000 pension at age 63 instead of the maximum $23,000 at age 63 for Social Security is because the taxpayers of IL guarantee it. Ms. Forpe paid in (contributed) $139,104 to her pension. Someone on Social Security working until age 63, earning the same salary as Ms. Forpe, would have paid in about $135,000. So no Ms. Forpe your massive $99,000 pension vs. your peers Social Security pension of $23,000 has absolutely nothing to do with your greater contributions. It has only to do with legal political corruption." http://www.championnews.net/blog/2011/11/07/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-the-99k%E2%80%9D-art-teacher-equates-her-99000-pension-to-social-security/
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 02:57 AM
"1. If your boss balanced his budget by not paying your Social Security pension benefits, your boss would be fined, shut down or in jail. (1) First of all it is “pension contributions” not “pension benefits”. Theoretically “contributions” are made first then later “benefits” are paid. If my employer had to pay 30% of my salary, as taxpayers have to do for teachers, he would be “shut down” for sure because he would be out of business. No business could possibly survive those kinds of retirement benefits. However, since taxpayers are forced to pay taxes, any amount can be exacted from them by the political process for the benefit of only one small group – teachers. On the other hand employer Social Security contributions are 6.2% about one-fifth the taxpayer contribution to TRS." http://www.championnews.net/blog/2011/11/07/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-the-99k%E2%80%9D-art-teacher-equates-her-99000-pension-to-social-security/
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:01 AM
Johnson, I believe the average is around 25 years. I am not sure if that is broken down between teacher and administration though.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:02 AM
Johnson, also notice the list in the article are teachers, not administrators.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:05 AM
Illinois $100,000 Teacher Salaries by Subject 2012 -- http://www.championnews.net/blog/2012/12/11/no-recession-in-teacher-land-10000-teacher-salaries-over-100000-in-2012-up-33-from-2011/
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:06 AM
I will work on getting the whole list of those over $100K. Brad, these are ALL the teachers retiring at over $120K.
Terri February 03, 2013 at 03:32 AM
Can you source anything but Champion swill? That article is so riddled with lies, untruths and nonsense, I don't know where to begin.
Terri February 03, 2013 at 03:35 AM
So Ms. Forpe calls a contribution a benefit and you're all over her like white on rice. You call a 403b a 401k and that's just fine. More lies untruths and swill
Terri February 03, 2013 at 03:39 AM
By the way...I asked for you to illustrate the annuity. Guess the math was to difficult, or, you didn't get the desired result (you won't). So go to your fallback; un-sourced lies and swill on Champion.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:48 AM
LOL @Terri, you obviously didn't look at the article. It was written by Bill Zettler, author of the Illinois Pension Scam. He sourced all his materials from TRS and the other 4 State Pension Systems directly.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:49 AM
The article was written by Bill Zettler, author of the Illinois Pension Scam. He sourced all his materials from TRS and the other 4 State Pension Systems directly. Are you claiming the State Pensions systems are providing false data?
Sully February 03, 2013 at 03:51 AM
Lennie, don't you think you're a little old to be writing 'LOL' so frequently?
Terri February 03, 2013 at 03:53 AM
No. I claiming that you source the same thing over, and over, and over, and over...lies, untruths and swill. Your articles and links cite nothing reputable.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:56 AM
Ahh, so you are claiming TRS, SURS, SERS, are providing false information.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 03:57 AM
Nope, not given the level of response from you or Terri. You guys are hilarious.
Terri February 03, 2013 at 03:59 AM
LOL!!!! I saw 1 citation...LOL...regarding state v teacher contributions for 10 years...taken totally out of context...LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL
Terri February 03, 2013 at 04:00 AM
LOL! Lies and swill
Terri February 03, 2013 at 04:03 AM
LOL! You still can't read. More lies and swill. Champion is crap...not TRS SERS SURS. your BS website makes one citation...a list of numbers published out of context. LOL !!!
Sully February 03, 2013 at 04:10 AM
Lennie, you go around spouting "quality education", yet you've never defined what that is. I find it a bit suspect when you continually refuse to answer this question. You're trying to sell a bill of goods that you can't even explain.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 04:16 AM
I answered your questions a couple years ago when you were willing to have an honest discussion. You have repeatedly proven you don't want that. For the fun of it though, a quality education is one that prepares students for both college and a career.
Sully February 03, 2013 at 04:20 AM
What are you afraid of, Jarratt? Most people already know you can't be taken seriously, so it can't be that you're worried people will see you as a fraud. Is it just a pride thing? You can't answer the question, so you hide behind a grandiose facade? Yeah, that's probably it.
Sully February 03, 2013 at 04:23 AM
Oh that's really deep, Lennie. How about you explain that in a little more detail. What you just said is meaningless. You don't know the answer, Lennie. You're too simplistic for that. A fraud peddling goods of no value.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 04:24 AM
Exaclty what I thought. I answer the question and you immediately attack me again ignoring the answer.
Sully February 03, 2013 at 04:35 AM
If you think that answer contained even the slightest bit of substance, you're more simplistic than I thought. Forget it Lennie. You don't have a clue. Just keep preaching your BS to the very few who are even more simplistic than you.
Lennie Jarratt February 03, 2013 at 04:44 AM
If you want to have an open and honest discussion setup a meeting so we can talk face to face. As everyone can see all you want to do is make personal attacks instead of have a real conversation. Answering your questions in depth serve no useful purpose when all you want to do is hide behind an alias and attack.
Ed Brown February 03, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Suntime story August 2012 had a link to a database on school staff salaries. http://www.suntimes.com/data/14314316-666/database-search-for-illinois-teacher-and-administrator-salaries.html
Johnson H. February 04, 2013 at 07:44 PM
Lennie, I get your point, but with about 140,000 teachers in Illinois, and about 10,000 of them making over 100L, it only translates to about 7 or 8%. It is not as egregious as it sounds.
Johnson H. February 04, 2013 at 07:59 PM
So I looked through the link and looked up Grayslake 46, there is a wide range of employees, some over 100K (not many) and some down at about 30K all full time 100% they call them. There are even some teachers who have been in the illinois system for 10 years making about 30K. So lets take a conservative number like 70K and as Lennies pointed out average is about 25 years in the system. 25 Years time 2.2 % = 55% for a retirement benefit. This equals $38,500/year as a retired teacher after 25 years. It is not even close to the 100K pensions that are being fround upon. The 100 K pensions are the exceptions. What they need to fix is the double dippers, the work for 1 day and collect a pension teachers. They need to fix the system, and fix the funding that the politicians did not provide, while our teachers paid their side of the deal.
Joe Oblivious February 19, 2013 at 07:14 PM
Thanks for post Lennie. It appears you have a flock of trolls on you rear.

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